Where's that skyline? Lol

I saw more turkeys this deer season than I have ever seen!! I know of at least 30 longbeards on our lease. Can't wait for March 14th!!

We spread chicken litter all around town, and we are full of turkeys around here? Please explain your thought about the litter??

My uncle is a chicken farmer and spreads litter on all of his cow pastures,he's loaded with turkeys

Negative, ain't any birds in northeast Bama. BrentM and Jughead have killed them all.

I don't know much about it DW, but some wardens and biologists in southern middle TN have been running some tests and they are saying that the litter is giving the turkey liver cancer or something like that and that's why there numbers are down. Not sure if that's true but they have done some work and that's what they came up with.

Sorry it's taking so long for me to get back to ya. I've got my 4 year olds bday party today and lots of honeydoos to get ready.
I didn't say they said it was their main concern. They said it was a high priority. Take a look at westervelt's web page, there are pics of quail, turkey, deer, and dove everywhere. I think those are on their main logo. Claw timber co. is the same. I talk w them regularly, as that's who I lease from now. They say they are concerned, but won't let me cut any of the 9 yo pines to create a little sunlight. I'm talking just a couple acres. They just bought 90,000 acres from U.S. Steel, and they can't let me create an opening or two?? Actually roadside planting is all I asked for, which would benefit them also by letting sunlight reach the roads to allow them to dry quicker. It would allow us to plant and let some sunlight in, in places that are barren, other than those "rare" pine trees. I hate o moan and groan, but I wouldn't want everyone thinking timber companies do all they can for wildlife, when that's not totally true. And I don't see the diversity you speak of. They cut right to every creek and leave a very small strip of hardwood, which in turn leaves a large pine thicket over a large area of land. That's not diverse to me. But, it's their property to profit from, so whatever. Just don't tell me you're concerned w wildlife habitat and then do nothing for it.

Know of a county in Northwest Florida season was closed for four years. One area about 3000 acres you couldn't find a turkey. Same county in early 1900's old timers can tell you about last deer killed out over 50000 acres. That is why I always let a few deer go where I hunt just in case. Takes to long to get population re-established! Hope you guys do the same!

Shouldn't the management companies manage for wildlife that is what you are paying for right not watching pines grow! Don't see why a company that is getting what they do for leases can't sacrifice for conservation a few acres? Years ago you could go on timber companies land free now people pay for that! Even WMA's pay a good dollar and don't have much for game planted for summer! Maybe that will change one day in near future!

It can change, but the demand created the rec lease system. People keep paying for the leases. Even thru price increases, properties are leased. Some are better than others. You get what you pay for - etc, etc.

Always remember it's a choice. And one choice is to stop leasing and quit hunting there. One is to stop complaining. Another is to co-exist. You could also find property and buy it. So many choices.

--I agree with this--
"Always remember it's a choice."

--yep, this is a choice, but it's in a decent and really convenient area--
"And one choice is to stop leasing and quit hunting there."

-this is the only time it's been spoken of and I just wish they'd do what they say. Considering hunters are customers of theirs, good customer service starts with doing things you say you'll do.--
"One is to stop complaining."

--Doing this now--
"Another is to co-exist."

On a fireman's budget that's married to a teacher, not likely
"You could also find property and buy it."

--I'll keep riding that line of bugging them and try to get them a little more proactive--
"So many choices."

turkey247, I wasn't trying to start a forestry/lumber company bash with my reply earlier. I can say that most of the paper/lumber companies I've dealt with were shyster's, but it's their right to be a shyster if they want, they own the land. Hell, if I had a chance to make an extra dime, and was in their place, I can't say that I wouldn't do the exact same things they do. People are always going to pay for leases, and only 1% of the population will every be able to afford a size-able piece of property, so what we have now, is probably what we'll have until we die, so there really is no need to have a '' want '' for it to be better.

Good post john.

There is a band called the Turkeys

Not trying to argue at all Daniel, but I live just outside of woodland and we own 200 acres here at the house and access to close to 1000 through friends and family. None of it is clearcuts and most is mature timber with some Ag fields on wedowee creek. Out of all that there is only 1 place that has a huntable population of turkeys. I know that there are way more toward Wedowee area as I've hunted that way the last few years. It has been a complete mystery as to why we can never seem to have birds.

Negative, ain't any birds in northeast Bama. BrentM and Jughead have killed them all.
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Randolph county does not have the birds it did in the 80s 90s, and up until the early 00s. In my experience at least.

I think that is just rumor. The research isn't rumor, the liver cancer is rumor. Turkeys can get a disease called blackhead, which effects the liver and secea.

I would definitely agree with that. There are still some good populations toward the wadley area but even places we have hunted there since the late 80s do not have anywhere near as many birds.
While I understand many people use chicken litter and still see lots of turkeys, I can't see how it could possibly be a good thing for them. Most places I know just throw all the dead birds in with the litter and throw it all on fields. It might not be the main culprit but I have a had time believing it doesn't hurt some.

Leg bands don't have antennas, transmitters (worn on the back) do.