I was wondering if anyone thinks hunting deer with dogs will ever be done away with in Alabama? I used to hunt with them some when I was younger but don't care for it now. I would rather get out in the woods and scout and hunt the deer. Just more skill and some luck involved vs turning dogs loose and waiting for one to run by you. Also it seems to me the deer wouldnt be as pressured as they are with people running dogs 3, 4, 5 times or more a week blowing up the woods. I think the deer could develop a more normal pattern of movement instead of being chased all the time. You would be able to see more deer in the daylight hours, bucks especially. (I know they have strict seasons and bag limits in the midwest but I dont they they allow it in most states. I could be wrong though. Seems to me that would help contibute to seeing more bucks in daylight hours.) It may never happen here but I would be glad if it was done away with. I believe it would only help the development of more mature and bigger bucks.

It is already illegal in some counties, just a matter of time before it is outlawed across the state.

I don't think they will ever outlaw it in the whole state.. Why should they?? You so full of shucks with your "reasoning" it's unreal.. DO you have any dog clubs beside you? Are they breaking any laws?? People like you is what sucks about the hunting world. Yall are a bunch of pansies, that want the whole state to do what "they" want.. I bet you got a college education also... Your a DAM fool if you will be glad when they do away with someones hunting rights....

This is the stupidest post I have ever read. I don't dog hunt deer but to wish that another mans hunting rights would get took away is just plain out stupid. I'm all for better deer hunting but not if it means taking away how my granddaddy, daddy, and I was introduced to hunting. If you don't like dog hunting find u a property far away from dog hunters and as to seeing more bucks before dark. I have piece of land that hasn't had a dog run on it in 20 yrs. Guess what??? Old bucks are still nocturnal.

LOL - another 'I can't kill a really big buck so there HAS to be a reason besides a lack of skill, resources, and access to property where they exist' post.

Yeah, come on!

Wow

Just wasted 3 min of my life reading this...thanks I will never get that back.

Yall are a bunch of pansies, that want the whole state to do what "they" want.. I bet you got a college education also... [/quote]

Very classy.

"If you don't hunt the way I hunt, you aren't a real hunter", maybe a little difference in wording, but the same stupid idea.

To answer the question....no I don't think it will be outlawed totally. It may be restricted some more over the years but it seems that most dog hunting groups these days now realize it can be taken away and are doing a better job of policing their own and trying to be better neighbors.If this doesn't continue then it could be but hopefully not for their sake.

I do understand how people get to the point of wanting it gone though. The worst day in my hunting life was the day a rogue dog hunting club moved in beside me and the best day was when they left....so I do understand but I don't want the good ones punished for the low lifes.

I don't think you have hunted parts of Colbert County where "some" of the dog groups hunt every body's property. Pretty sorry excuse for something they call hunting.

BTW-I am a member in the oldest dog hunting club in Colbert County and our level of participation in the dog hunts goes down every year. We traditionally have three big hunts a year. The hunt on Friday after Christmas this year saw three members show up. Ten years ago there would have been at least 20 hunters on this hunt. Folks now days like hunting one on one with the deer they are seeking. I look for more restrictions in Colbert in the near future because of certain groups that just run ramshod across everything they want to. There are already several clubs that want dogs restricted in all of Colbert County. I don't want to give up any privileges as a hunter, but the Wardens are just stretched too far to enforce the laws here.

Nope I have not hunted in Colbert county. That is not a good situation and it will probably lead to more restrictions.

The club I am in has great relations with our neighbors and law enforcement personnel. We had one of of Wardens-Chad Howell address our club at our October meeting. It was great getting to meet him and talk with him. He told us one club that is very close to us had received numerous complaints about their hunting. It gives a black eye to everyone who tries to do right.

Never have been dog hunting. Coon hunted many a night and it's fun to fellowship as your hunting and to see the dogs work. The main problem besides the keeping your dogs contains is this. People do not feel that they can kill trophy bucks running dogs! If people started killing 150 inch deer in front of dogs everyone would sell their climbers and invest in dog boxes. People feel that still hunting gives them the best chance to kill a trophy deer bottom line. Now I'm dumb when it comes to dogs Daniel can help us out along with others. Start posting some of the big deer that you guys are killing and be an advocate for that part of the sport and it will take off. I have no idea if dog hunters kill big bucks or not. I do know the stereo type is they shoot whatever thru jump once again I've never been and can't comment so please don't blast me on this one.

Very classy. [/quote]

It was early and I was agitated. I was just pointing out the no common sense. Meaning if he has a education. He should have more sense that what he is showing.

I wasn't fussing about not liking dog hunting. It's the total banning it idea that's stupid. I'll round up some pics of "good" bucks that I know for a fact was killed in front of dogs. No matter what style hunting you prefer. None of it needs to be outlawed and we all can do better. Especially doggers. That's why my dogs has over $1000 in electronics everytime they hit the ground. We all can do better some way or another for sure.

That is a great idea! I have no clue about the difference in still and dog hunting as far as kill data. I would guess dog hunting is if it runs by it gets shot at. Is there a kill on everyday you have a dog drive? Do you have clubs that only shot bucks? How many man hours does it take to get a deer? Do you still or stalk hunt the club during the week? By the end of the year does everyone in the club kill a couple? While I have never hunted with dogs and I have lots of yard dogs around my lease that make me want to kill everyone. (never killed one) I am not trying to be a SA, I just would like to know some facts.

He does bring up a point that has certainly been hotly debated over the years.

The issue is not taking away hunting rights. The issue is when one person's style of hunting negatively impacts somebody else's. Certainly not all but SOME dog hunters did not hunt responsibly and let their dogs run over other people's property.

Like many on here, my first deer hunting experiences were hunting with dogs. My first club was a dog hunting club in Pike County and we had 12,000 acres. Since I dog hunted in the mid 70s, dog hunting has been dramatically reduced in this state. Why? Some of it is the cost of keeping dogs year round but I think the reason is less public land available to hunt. I think leasing enough private land to dog hunt has become prohibitively expense. Why is less public land available? Like it or not enough dog hunters disregarded the rights of adjacent land owners resulting in enough of an outcry to limit dog hunting to the few counties left.

I haven't dog hunted in 30 years but I hope the dog hunters that remain like DW hunt responsibly. If they do then they should keep the right to do so.

Daniel, I agree with you and don't think it should be ban in the state for the record. You seem like a very level headed and logical hunter so I understand how you feel when others don't hunt like a hounds men would. I do not want anyone who abides by the law and pay their taxes to this great state to have any ethical hunting right taking away from them. I do firmly believe that if more people knew the types of deer taken on these hunts you might have an attitude change by many hunters. We all know that if Michael Waddell killed a booner in front of dogs on TV then your phone would be ringing off the hook to find out when the next run was. Since the availability of land isn't what it used to be......what if two weekends out of the year WMAs were dog hunting only? I know it would be hard to organize but ten groups or so would be able to handle a good chunk of it. Everyone on same page and you guys wouldn't have to worry about someone shooting your dogs. I think that would alleviate some pains for some hunters. It's just an idea