I lived in Ohio for 10 years & saw every conceivable way to beat the Tag system. Most common is the simple "land-owner" tags for crop damage, you only need a few acres to get 'em, and they could be used year-round in some areas. You can buy hunts with them on freakin Ebay if you want to, totally legal to kill deer in velvet if that's what you want.

Your right vulkanman

Question for those so adamantly opposed to a Tagging System:

How many of you are also opposed to the 3-buck limit?

I know that the honest people are gonna be honest, and the Outlaws will be Outlaws.....and that there are ways around Tags.

BUT, I don't think anyone can argue the FACT that they will help to make the Rule much easier to enforce for the GW's.

In my humble opinion, the Pro's outweigh the con's.

If there is any kind of "tag" system then the penalties MUST be punitive enough to make it hurt when busted with an untagged deer.

A $140 speeding ticket won't deter someone who drives fast all the time. But $500 the first time, and loss of the privileges the next, might work. Too harsh? Tough nuts. Don't break the speed limit.

Light penalties for hunting and fishing violations are just paid and ignored. Big deal. They get shrugged off.

Make it really hurt, though, and make the weekly citations available to the news media to publish - just like police records - and a lot of the chit wouldn't happen or would stop.

Make it hurt.... I know the high cost of speeding tickets makes me slow down

A new tagging system will not help anything people are still going to break the law

No doubt.

BUT, do you not think that it will at least make the enforcement easier?

What we have now with the harvest record is a joke. I haven't seen one post yet that would convince me why getting 3 buck tags would not be better.
Maybe some of the ones opposed are the same ones that conviently happen to lose their harvest record and get another.

What gets better with a tagging system?

How many times have you been stopped by a GW when you had a deer in your possession? Is a tagging system supposed to magically increase the number of GWs so that more enforcement can be employed?

Will a tagging system make bucks grow bigger antlers, bacause after all that is the whole reason behind the system, right? If it doesn't cause bucks to bigger antlers then what is the tagging system for?

So again what gets better with a tagging system? There still will not be more GWs to check every deer that is killed and I don't believe tags rank high in the deers genetics for bigger antlers, but I do see that it will create more rules, regulations and paperwork for no benefit.

If someone that knows that someone else is killing more than they are supposed to and notify the GW, then that is the best information due to the fact that all of the honest hunters are providing additional eyes for the GW. I can almost guarantee that the GWs will investigate and keep up the the violators as their job requires whether a tagging system is in place or not.

I believe I read in a few other posts from people that have had first had experience with tagging systems that there are was around them.

Are there any areas where the buck portion of the herd has been decimated by over killing? If there are has anyone made that State aware of that?

So I will counter you statement by saying I have yet to see a post that would convince me that a 3 buck tagging system would provide any benefit especially when it will only be the honest people that use them anyway, which in my opinion would be the vast majority of hunters.

We already have the laws and regulations to harvest 3 bucks per year and record them on your Harvest record.This will not be changing anything but the method of recording your kill.
The Tagging system will just replace writing down your kill to placing a tag on its antler.

I hunt tennessee also i know how it works. Regardless people are still going to kill deer and not tag them.

It sounds like the only difference is writing on a piece of paper versus attaching it to the deer, right? Is so, why change?

i was against limits so to say but can go along with the way they are now . i fully believe we are headed to why i dislike the limits . not to far off some will be pushing a limit of a , 4 point on one side rule .

The long range goal is two bucks with both needing at least 3 points on one side..... and its already being pushed. The change to a 3 buck limit was step one.

It won't make enforcement any easier but it will allow more opportunity for decent law-abiding hunters to get ticketed for an honest mistake.
I was against the 3-buck limit because I know several fine upstanding hunters who feel the need to "fill their tag" or "take the limit" when I doubt they had ever killed 3 bucks in a season before. That mentality will eventually go away, I know, and I know people will always kill deer that they shouldn't kill, but to me, giving the anti's another club to beat us with won't help a thing.

oh well , when i'm thinning a few does and happen to kill a spike i'll just leave it laying . looks like at some point we all gonna be out laws .

Very sad statement.It kinda tells us the person you really are.

It'll make it a little harder for you to cheat the system

People are going to cheat the system its not going to make it harder for them

You got to use some common sense here.

Joe Blow kills 3 bucks and get all the duplicate harvest records he wants . Easy for him to get past this honor system.

OR

Joe Blow kills 3 bucks and attaches 3 tags that are assigned to his license number. He can not legally get another tag and use it.


Criminals are going to be criminals and nothing you do will ever put a stop to that.You lock the door of your home when your away but it doesn't stop the burglar who will kick the door down to get in. This will never stop people from cheating but I think it will help to keep an honest man ,honest. It will also provide better harvest records for our biologists which can be used in a number of ways. I'd be curious to know buck harvest by county in our state but right now its all just a guessing game.