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Re: Hunting distance from feeder
[Re: Joe4majors]
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11/03/14 10:50 AM
11/03/14 10:50 AM
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Lee County
rackaddict
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6 point
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Posts: 917
Lee County
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GW came and spoke at our church sportsmens dinner last week and this very question came up. He said exactly what everyone has been doing is marking off 101 yds and putting the feed behind a bush or tree or something. He said they will bust you for that because if you read to regs its also says "going to or coming from". His advise was mark off your 101 yds and then move it another 50 yds out of site. So the added 50 yds takes away the chance for the GW to say the deer was over, going to or coming from the feed.
Now, this was his personal view of the regs and how he will address each situation but I thought it was a good view and a fair way to address it.
The GW doing the speaking covers Russell and Lee counties.
Some of you may know him, M. Jolley. And he has a history of being a hard A...
Last edited by rackaddict; 11/03/14 10:53 AM.
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Re: Hunting distance from feeder
[Re: rackaddict]
#1134712
11/03/14 11:12 AM
11/03/14 11:12 AM
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Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,508
Northport
Bamarich2
8 point
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8 point
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,508
Northport
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GW came and spoke at our church sportsmens dinner last week and this very question came up. He said exactly what everyone has been doing is marking off 101 yds and putting the feed behind a bush or tree or something. He said they will bust you for that because if you read to regs its also says "going to or coming from". His advise was mark off your 101 yds and then move it another 50 yds out of site. So the added 50 yds takes away the chance for the GW to say the deer was over, going to or coming from the feed.
Now, this was his personal view of the regs and how he will address each situation but I thought it was a good view and a fair way to address it.
The GW doing the speaking covers Russell and Lee counties.
Some of you may know him, M. Jolley. And he has a history of being a hard A... The last part here may be the key matter. Our CO in the county said (I quote), "I can't get into a deer's head and KNOW he/she is going to a feeding station"... so the 100 yards and out of sight applies in our county. But... like I said before, you will want to ask your own CO to make sure you're on safe footing.
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Re: Hunting distance from feeder
[Re: Bamarich2]
#1134724
11/03/14 11:25 AM
11/03/14 11:25 AM
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Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 917
Lee County
rackaddict
6 point
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6 point
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 917
Lee County
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GW came and spoke at our church sportsmens dinner last week and this very question came up. He said exactly what everyone has been doing is marking off 101 yds and putting the feed behind a bush or tree or something. He said they will bust you for that because if you read to regs its also says "going to or coming from". His advise was mark off your 101 yds and then move it another 50 yds out of site. So the added 50 yds takes away the chance for the GW to say the deer was over, going to or coming from the feed.
Now, this was his personal view of the regs and how he will address each situation but I thought it was a good view and a fair way to address it.
The GW doing the speaking covers Russell and Lee counties.
Some of you may know him, M. Jolley. And he has a history of being a hard A... The last part here may be the key matter. Our CO in the county said (I quote), "I can't get into a deer's head and KNOW he/she is going to a feeding station"... so the 100 yards and out of sight applies in our county. But... like I said before, you will want to ask your own CO to make sure you're on safe footing. He kept going back to this as it is written "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that any bait or feed located beyond 100 yards and not within the line of site of the hunter, is not a lure or attractant on the area where the hunter is attempting to take deer or feral swine." Innocent until proven guilty in other words.
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Re: Hunting distance from feeder
[Re: Gig]
#1134743
11/03/14 11:35 AM
11/03/14 11:35 AM
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Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 642
Alabama
coyotehunter
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4 point
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 642
Alabama
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Has anybody had a incident with the GW on this I've yet to hear of any? They are probably to busy with other issues,could be a tack on citation if they are there for something else. Case got thrown out. It was 200yards away but when all the leaves fell off the trees you could see 1/2 inch worth of the feeder. Not the feed the feeder case dismissed.
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Re: Hunting distance from feeder
[Re: coyotehunter]
#1134761
11/03/14 11:45 AM
11/03/14 11:45 AM
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Posts: 645
Lowndes County
augustus_65
4 point
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4 point
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 645
Lowndes County
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Has anybody had a incident with the GW on this I've yet to hear of any? They are probably to busy with other issues,could be a tack on citation if they are there for something else. Case got thrown out. It was 200yards away but when all the leaves fell off the trees you could see 1/2 inch worth of the feeder. Not the feed the feeder case dismissed. Which County?
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Re: Hunting distance from feeder
[Re: Joe4majors]
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11/03/14 11:57 AM
11/03/14 11:57 AM
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Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 15,668
Montgomery
bamaeyedoc
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 15,668
Montgomery
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Augustus65 nailed it. All because the feeder is out of sight and 100 yards away cannot exclude you from being guilty of hunting over "bait" or the politically correct term of "supplemental feed."
Dr. B
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Member of Team 10 Point
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Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris
1938-2017
UGA Class of 1960
BS/MS Forestry
LTJG, USNR
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Re: Hunting distance from feeder
[Re: Remington270]
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11/03/14 03:37 PM
11/03/14 03:37 PM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 645
Lowndes County
augustus_65
4 point
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4 point
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 645
Lowndes County
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Hey Augustus_65, would you throw a baiting case out of court because the law together with the rules is "void for vagueness"?
It seems like everything together creates a "gray zone" as even you said in one of your posts. The short answer is no because that is not the role of the trial court. That would be up to the appellate courts. I don't believe the regulation is vague, but it does leave a certain amount of discretion to the Court. The regulation actually clarifies the law by defining area, but it requires the Court to determine from the facts of a particular case whether the party violated the law. The grey areas are where new case law is created. The appellate courts help fill in those gaps when they rule on cases.
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Re: Hunting distance from feeder
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
#1135295
11/04/14 02:21 AM
11/04/14 02:21 AM
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Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 5,651
Lincoln, Alabama
blumsden
12 point
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12 point
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 5,651
Lincoln, Alabama
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Augustus65 nailed it. All because the feeder is out of sight and 100 yards away cannot exclude you from being guilty of hunting over "bait" or the politically correct term of "supplemental feed."
Dr. B Bait and supplemental feed are 2 completely different things. They were never intended to be the same thing. Although most people on here are just looking for a legal way to bait. Most people who are really supplementally feeding there deer, aren't feeding just corn and they are not hunting anywhere near it. IMO, if your having a hard time figuring this whole thing out, well, then your baiting.
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