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Re: Question about lock on stands [Re: Bowhunter84] #1034116
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I dont think 160-180$ for a safe comfortable loc on is to expensive, lot better than sitting in a piece of crap on that is uncomfortable

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Re: Question about lock on stands [Re: Bowhunter84] #1034186
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If your gonna tote your loc on in and out with you may as well just use a climber. I hunt out of loc on stands because I don't want to have to carry my stand in.

Re: Question about lock on stands [Re: Bowhunter84] #1034198
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I thought about replacing my lazy boy with a Millenium


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Re: Question about lock on stands [Re: mauvilla] #1034225
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Originally Posted By: mauvilla
I dont think 160-180$ for a safe comfortable loc on is to expensive, lot better than sitting in a piece of crap on that is uncomfortable

I have comfortable loc-ons, that i paid less than $75 for. I hate the small seated gorilla's and such, too. I have probably 30 stands at 2 different properties, if i spent that much on 1 stand, i'd be broke. They are great stands.

Re: Question about lock on stands [Re: Bowhunter84] #1034227
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While it is hard to argue with the comfort of the M100 if I were going to set up sticks/steps and then hang and hunt with a single stand, it would have to be the Lone Wolf Alpha II...

Re: Question about lock on stands [Re: Bowhunter84] #1034520
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I prefer (1) Millennium m50 with a bunch of brackets and sticks all over the woods. I've been doing this for years. It also helps to keep people out of your stands when you're not hunting them. They can't hunt a stand that isn't there. It has paid off for me. It has also allowed me to spend money on other things I need besides stands.

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Re: Question about lock on stands [Re: Bowhunter84] #1038526
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You don't have to buy the bracket stands if you're going to use an extra ratchet anyway.

Do what I do and buy whatever stand you want. Use screw in utility hooks to hold your stand steady at the top of your climb while you get your ratchet put together. When your tightening it down, lift it a couple of inches off the hook.

Another idea if you are worried about folks sitting your stand or stealing it because you leave the lockon on the tree: Buy your normal sticks and leave them on the trees you use leading upto your stand. Leave a 5-10' gap between the top of your sticks and your lockon. Pick you up one or two individual strap on sections to carry into the stand and place in the gap each sit. Super quiet and prevents the lazy folks in your club from sitting your spot or taking your stuff.

Re: Question about lock on stands [Re: JUSTIN37HUNT] #1038944
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Originally Posted By: JUSTIN37HUNT
You don't have to buy the bracket stands if you're going to use an extra ratchet anyway.

Do what I do and buy whatever stand you want. Use screw in utility hooks to hold your stand steady at the top of your climb while you get your ratchet put together. When your tightening it down, lift it a couple of inches off the hook.

Another idea if you are worried about folks sitting your stand or stealing it because you leave the lockon on the tree: Buy your normal sticks and leave them on the trees you use leading upto your stand. Leave a 5-10' gap between the top of your sticks and your lockon. Pick you up one or two individual strap on sections to carry into the stand and place in the gap each sit. Super quiet and prevents the lazy folks in your club from sitting your spot or taking your stuff.

great idea never thought of that

Re: Question about lock on stands [Re: blumsden] #1038990
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Originally Posted By: blumsden
I prefer to not tote anything in with me. Awfully nice to just slip in, climb ladder and sit down without the added weight, and noise.


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Re: Question about lock on stands [Re: JUSTIN37HUNT] #1039231
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Originally Posted By: JUSTIN37HUNT




Another idea if you are worried about folks sitting your stand or stealing it because you leave the lockon on the tree: Buy your normal sticks and leave them on the trees you use leading upto your stand. Leave a 5-10' gap between the top of your sticks and your lockon. Pick you up one or two individual strap on sections to carry into the stand and place in the gap each sit. Super quiet and prevents the lazy folks in your club from sitting your spot or taking your stuff.


I do this near property lines ^^^^^. But I leave the bottom 2 sections off, that way I can stand on the ground and put them on in the AM.



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Originally Posted By: blumsden
I prefer to not tote anything in with me. Awfully nice to just slip in, climb ladder and sit down without the added weight, and noise.


this


You got that right! I have loc-ons and ladders all over my property. I wake up and wanta hunt a ridge I haven't been to all season, there's a stand there ready for action. When the bucks are really on their feet during rut, if I'm not on a specific buck, I stand hop. Many times based on past history with a place, I go in blind, unscouted and first morning put ones chin on the ground.

I do have a millennium. Won it in a big buck contest, I'd never spend that kinda $ on one. They are comfy! I have thought a good way to use them would be to have a bunch of brackets and two stands, play leap frog with the stands. That way you could have at least one up and ready and move them around.

The loc-on to pack in and put up each hunt is a Lone Wolf with their sticks. Very slick system.



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Re: Question about lock on stands [Re: 2Dogs] #1041052
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs

The loc-on to pack in and put up each hunt is a Lone Wolf with their sticks. Very slick system.


^^This is my main set-up for my annual Kansas trip^^


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Re: Question about lock on stands [Re: Bowhunter84] #1041288
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like 2Dogs, I have a lot of stands scattered out over our farm and every year I find at least 2 or 3 more areas I need a stand. That being said, I can buy 3 $100-$120 "nice" lock on's for same price as 2 Millenniums. You can get a pretty good lock on for $100. I'm not a big guy so comfort isn't too much of an issue as long as it's not one of those cheap $60 stands. The new Gorillas with the arm rests are plenty comfortable for me.

Re: Question about lock on stands [Re: Bowhunter84] #1041476
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I have both the M50 and the M100. I seldom use my climber anymore simply because I like being able to get into trees that have limbs on them. Most of the time I pre hang my sticks and brackets then hunt the wind. Between the two, I prefer the M50. I bought mine a few years ago at Sportsman's Outfitters in Dothan for $99. The way I look at it is I pay $20-$30 for the extra hangers and each hanger is another stand.


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Re: Question about lock on stands [Re: Bowhunter84] #1041544
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Millennium's are by far the most econmical.

I can get more brackets and a 20' sticks for $60 per setup.

Takes about 20 seconds to silently hang a millennium. This is my process:
I climb up the stick with the stand on my back. It only weighs 15lb...
I use one of the reel type pull up ropes trailing off my left side.
My safety harness has a lineman strap connected on right side with a carabiner (the loop end of my tether from the back of the harness is also through this carabiner). The excess lineman strap is stuffed in my right cargo pocket with another carabiner on the end.
When i get to the top of the stick, i pull out the lineman harness, put it around the tree and connect it to my left side lineman loop on my harness. Now i can safely use both hands to take the stand off my back and put it in the bracket. Use moleskin on the bracket to silence it. Now i unhook the left carabiner and clip it on the line on the right of the tree, then unhook the right carabiner out of the right lineman loop but still connected to the loop tether going to the back of my harness so im connected to the tree in a hunting configuration. I climb into the stand, pull up my weapon, and im ready to hunt. Its super fast and easy. Takes about as long as it took you to read this.

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Re: Question about lock on stands [Re: walt4dun] #1041686
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Originally Posted By: walt4dun
Millennium's are by far the most econmical.

I can get more brackets and a 20' sticks for $60 per setup.

Takes about 20 seconds to silently hang a millennium. This is my process:
I climb up the stick with the stand on my back. It only weighs 15lb...
I use one of the reel type pull up ropes trailing off my left side.
My safety harness has a lineman strap connected on right side with a carabiner (the loop end of my tether from the back of the harness is also through this carabiner). The excess lineman strap is stuffed in my right cargo pocket with another carabiner on the end.
When i get to the top of the stick, i pull out the lineman harness, put it around the tree and connect it to my left side lineman loop on my harness. Now i can safely use both hands to take the stand off my back and put it in the bracket. Use moleskin on the bracket to silence it. Now i unhook the left carabiner and clip it on the line on the right of the tree, then unhook the right carabiner out of the right lineman loop but still connected to the loop tether going to the back of my harness so im connected to the tree in a hunting configuration. I climb into the stand, pull up my weapon, and im ready to hunt. Its super fast and easy. Takes about as long as it took you to read this.

I use Millenniums as well but I always add a ratchet around the bottom to stabilize the base. Without the ratchet, the stand wobbles, especially when you first step on it.

Re: Question about lock on stands [Re: truedouble] #1041689
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Originally Posted By: truedouble
like 2Dogs, I have a lot of stands scattered out over our farm and every year I find at least 2 or 3 more areas I need a stand. That being said, I can buy 3 $100-$120 "nice" lock on's for same price as 2 Millenniums. You can get a pretty good lock on for $100. I'm not a big guy so comfort isn't too much of an issue as long as it's not one of those cheap $60 stands. The new Gorillas with the arm rests are plenty comfortable for me.

I still use some of the "nice" stands for hunting over fields in the afternoon. My limit on those is about two hours tops. I just can't take sitting on a skinny cushion mounted to a piece of plywood or a metal grate. I tend to get fidgety or stand up which is not good. I hunt the millenniums in the morning. I can sit in those for six hours or more.

Re: Question about lock on stands [Re: Bowhunter84] #1041848
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I rarely have that problem, mine normally bites pretty well.
Its not like it gunna drop you or slide out if you step down off your stick to the center of the platform.
And Im strapped on the tree before I even step foot on the platform so why worry about it.

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Re: Question about lock on stands [Re: Bowhunter84] #1041966
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how bad do the millennium's "kick out' if you don't put the strap at the bottom?


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