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Re: Archery vs. Gun Pressure
[Re: bill]
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02/06/14 10:13 AM
02/06/14 10:13 AM
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TChunter
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I have hunted a field within 200 yards of several duck hunters blasting away and the deer never even pick their heads up at the sound of the shot. They are completely used to it as evidenced by my earlier statement that I had a deer stand still for 3 consecutive misses.
The few shots that are fired while deer hunting have no more effect that the occasional clap of thunder. When they hear a shot they aren't sitting there thinking their cousin Sally just became dinner. They just aren't that
smart. This 100%. Ive had deer keep feeding after one fell right next to them. I dont know if they think "Sally" just fell asleep or what but low pressured deer arent that concerned. The shooting doesnt concern me. Im more worried about once I have one on the ground how I can get it and get out of here as undetected as possible.
Last edited by TChunter; 02/06/14 10:16 AM.
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Re: Archery vs. Gun Pressure
[Re: bill]
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02/06/14 10:28 AM
02/06/14 10:28 AM
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bamaeyedoc
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Pressure is pressure is pressure. It don't matter what your weapon of choice is. Yep. Deer aren't all that bothered by gun fire. I have had them stand still while I missed 3 shots in a row. They have no idea what it is. It is the human scent left in the woods that causes deer to modify their behavior. The advantage of bow only is that fewer deer are killed which translates into more bucks reaching maturity. To add, the comings and goings of hunters in a hunting area will modify their behavior. Deer become aware of the little things like truck doors shutting, trees being climbed, talking, golf carts or ATV's riding around, ect. I don't think the deer care whether you have a gun, bow, or camera in your hand. If you are consistently in an area, they know it and adapt accordingly. Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B”
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Re: Archery vs. Gun Pressure
[Re: ikillbux]
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02/06/14 11:44 AM
02/06/14 11:44 AM
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Just from an opinion standpoint, I would fall in the camp that says human presence is bad regardless of what weapon I'm toting. However, I do feel like the loud noise of guns shooting is more detrimental than not.
Case Study: Most of my hunting is done on a military base that has some "bow only" areas. Except for this season that just ended, those areas have been open every day of the season for years and years. And there's not a day goes by that someone isn't bowhunting in them (retired military guys apparently have nothing else to do but hunt, LOL) The gun areas are only open on selected days (normally weekends only), and even then are rotated around for the purpose of limiting pressure. Except for what I've just explained, there's no difference in the terrain, locale, food sources, nothing. But by mid-season those bow areas are absolutely loaded with deer, while all the gun hunters are complaining about not seeing any deer, even though the pressure distribution would seem to be at least equal (if not worse in the bow areas). And the perception is always that the big bucks are "hiding in those bow only areas" (and honestly, they do seem to be). So make your own conclusion from that example, but I think there's something less "pressuring" to deer about a bowhunting only area than a gun area. Correlation does not equal causation...the reason more deer are in the bow only area could easily be because there are fewer hunter hours over all. Also, think of how much more scent/presence you leave in an area retrieving a dead animal vs just hunting? Surely more deer are killed in the gun hunting areas. There are a lot of variables in any study and without controls on the variables, there is no way to pinpoint the exact cause and effect. Agreeing with other posters, I know I get blown at a lot more bow hunting than I do gun hunting. I think bow only would be fun in that you would likely have a group of hunters that really enjoyed all aspects of "the hunt" I however, still enjoy a cold morning glassing hundreds of acres of cutover, and I like having the option for a quick/easy hunt in a permanent stand or a comfortable hunt with a new hunter.
"The kill is the satisfying, indeed essential, conclusion to a successful hunt. But, I take no pleasure in the act itself. One does not hunt in order to kill, but kills in order to have hunted. - Finn Aagard
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Re: Archery vs. Gun Pressure
[Re: bill]
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02/07/14 10:54 AM
02/07/14 10:54 AM
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roscopeecotrane
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Pressure is pressure is pressure. It don't matter what your weapon of choice is. Yep. Deer aren't all that bothered by gun fire. I have had them stand still while I missed 3 shots in a row. They have no idea what it is. It is the human scent left in the woods that causes deer to modify their behavior. The advantage of bow only is that fewer deer are killed which translates into more bucks reaching maturity. ^^this^^
Luck is where preparation meet opportunity
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Re: Archery vs. Gun Pressure
[Re: Buckmounted]
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02/09/14 04:33 PM
02/09/14 04:33 PM
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QDMAV8R
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I'll add 2 more cents to this topic...there are bow hunters and there are very successful bow hunters, just like you have gun hunters and very successful gun hunters. The continually successful group of both do things smartly to minimize pressure and increase their odds of seeing and taking game. In my opinion though, the bow hunter has to be a little better due to their limited effective range.
The key to any continual individual hunting success by a group will be inversely proportional to the lack of pressure discipline displayed by any member in that group. That's why I prefer large tracts with few hunters who are like minded in their approach to hunting.
"Never met a deer that I didn't like" - QDMAV8R
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