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Concealed carry question #849800
02/05/14 12:00 PM
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So you find yourself in a bank, gas station or some other public place during an armed robbery. Are you justified in shooting someone in the defense of another? If you had a way out would the prosecution be any different?

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i wouldnt blink a eye if i felt my life was in danger

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Just happened in Mobile not too long ago,thug was robbing the dollar store and a customer shot and killed him.No charges were filed against the man.


Be safe & have fun
Re: Concealed carry question [Re: aldoghunter] #849830
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Originally Posted By: aldoghunter
Just happened in Mobile not too long ago,thug was robbing the dollar store and a customer shot and killed him.No charges were filed against the man.



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Re: Concealed carry question [Re: jsh1904] #849833
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Ha, I was waiting for that. LOL!!


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Re: Concealed carry question [Re: whack-n-stack] #849838
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Originally Posted By: whack-n-stack
So you find yourself in a bank, gas station or some other public place during an armed robbery. Are you justified in shooting someone in the defense of another? If you had a way out would the prosecution be any different?


Depends on your race, the race of the person you shot, and how much media attention it gets.

Re: Concealed carry question [Re: whack-n-stack] #849839
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If you are in a place it is legal for you to carry, you have a permit, and you feel your life is in danger....yes, you can defend yourself.


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Re: Concealed carry question [Re: whack-n-stack] #849840
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"Self Defense" can be the defense of your self or others. It's justified.

Re: Concealed carry question [Re: whack-n-stack] #849842
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ALA CODE 13A-3-23 : Alabama Code - Section 13A-3-23: USE OF FORCE IN DEFENSE OF A PERSON

(a) A person is justified in using physical force upon another person in order to defend himself or herself or a third person from what he or she reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of unlawful physical force by that other person, and he or she may use a degree of force which he or she reasonably believes to be necessary for the purpose. A person may use deadly physical force, and is legally presumed to be justified in using deadly physical force in self-defense or the defense of another person pursuant to subdivision (4), if the person reasonably believes that another person is:
(1) Using or about to use unlawful deadly physical force.
(2) Using or about to use physical force against an occupant of a dwelling while committing or attempting to commit a burglary of such dwelling.
(3) Committing or about to commit a kidnapping in any degree, assault in the first or second degree, burglary in any degree, robbery in any degree, forcible rape, or forcible sodomy.
(4) In the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or has unlawfully and forcefully entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or federally licensed nuclear power facility, or is in the process of sabotaging or attempting to sabotage a federally licensed nuclear power facility, or is attempting to remove, or has forcefully removed, a person against his or her will from any dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle when the person has a legal right to be there, and provided that the person using the deadly physical force knows or has reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act is occurring. The legal presumption that a person using deadly physical force is justified to do so pursuant to this subdivision does not apply if:
a. The person against whom the defensive force is used has the right to be in or is a lawful resident of the dwelling, residence, or vehicle, such as an owner or lessee, and there is not an injunction for protection from domestic violence or a written pretrial supervision order of no contact against that person;
b. The person sought to be removed is a child or grandchild, or is otherwise in the lawful custody or under the lawful guardianship of, the person against whom the defensive force is used;
c. The person who uses defensive force is engaged in an unlawful activity or is using the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle to further an unlawful activity; or
d. The person against whom the defensive force is used is a law enforcement officer acting in the performance of his or her official duties.
(b) A person who is justified under subsection (a) in using physical force, including deadly physical force, and who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and is in any place where he or she has the right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground.
(c) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (a), a person is not justified in using physical force if:
(1) With intent to cause physical injury or death to another person, he or she provoked the use of unlawful physical force by such other person.
(2) He or she was the initial aggressor, except that his or her use of physical force upon another person under the circumstances is justifiable if he or she withdraws from the encounter and effectively communicates to the other person his or her intent to do so, but the latter person nevertheless continues or threatens the use of unlawful physical force.
(3) The physical force involved was the product of a combat by agreement not specifically authorized by law.
(d) A person who uses force, including deadly physical force, as justified and permitted in this section is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force, unless the force was determined to be unlawful.
(e) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force described in subsection (a), but the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force used was unlawful.
- See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/alcode/13A/3/2/13A-3-23#sthash.d3095e3a.dpuf


Well the first man comes along that can read Latin is welcome to rob us, far as I'm concerned. I'd like a chance t' shoot at a educated man once in my life.
Re: Concealed carry question [Re: aldoghunter] #849885
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Originally Posted By: aldoghunter
Just happened in Mobile not too long ago,thug was robbing the dollar store and a customer shot and killed him.No charges were filed against the man.


If you're referring to Adric White, he survived the shooting and his family released a statement saying that the good Samaritan should have left the store.

Link to the story

Re: Concealed carry question [Re: whack-n-stack] #849913
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I'd shoot the piss outta the perp. In self defense of myself and other innocent persons.


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I don't give a damn where I'm at if I feel like it's a life or death situation, I'll take my chances with a jury after I shoot.


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I've been thinking about this very thing.

Local TV station in Montgomery has shown two separate videos of robberies asking for help identifying the robbers. One was at a Dollar General and one was at a Publix. In both cases the robbers were very quick in and out and the whole thing took less than a minute. In the robbery at Publix, a lady pushed a shopping cart right by and wasn't even aware that a robbery was occurring.

So if you are in the store and are armed, do you just stand there and wait for the robber to leave if you are not in any danger? Do you shoot the robber from behind and risk shooting an innocent bystander? What would be the legal consequences if you engaged the robber?

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You have a legal right to shot him if your life or another person's life is in danger.

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Originally Posted By: doekiller
You have a legal right to shot him if your life or another person's life is in danger.


That's the kind of answer I was looking for.

Re: Concealed carry question [Re: whack-n-stack] #850414
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This is a question I think about all the time. In that situation most of the time the perp takes the money and runs. What if you decide to shoot cause it's legal and he dumps the clip in fear killing who knows who. I guess I'd have to judge the way he's acting and what he's saying and go from there. Last year I started shooting milk jugs head high to gain confidence in a head shot. A body shot with a 9mm worries me if they got their finger on the trigger.


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