|
|
|
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
31
|
|
|
116 registered members (stl32, Fishhead706, Tracker, zgobbler5, Ridge Life, Shane99, k bush, SuperSpike, ducky25, bald347, 7PTSPREAD, Macon176, Squadron77, Keysbowman, buzzard, mzzy, weatherby, hallb, Mbrock, Ol’Tom, mcninja, desertdog, FNG68, CeeHawk37, auman, crenshawco, CRUTCHJD76, johnv, twaldrop4, oldbowhunter, BPI, Paint Rock 00, Justice, Reptar, Brian_C, BACK40, bug54, fireman176, BD, CAM, cartervj, Beer Belly, fishhead, gman, cullbuck, alhawk, Bruno, JDW25, Spec, BentBarrel, mdf, Standbanger, 000buck, Dragfan66, Bmyers142, Floorman1, Lil_Fella, Sandmtnslayer, courseup, kyles, deerman24, GomerPyle, clayk, IDOT, CCC, BamaBoHunter, Huntn2feed5, Koba, Cahabariverrat, Ryano, chevydude2015, Driveby, Ragu, Scout308, JB71, BearBranch, burbank, Gobble4me757, doc bar, Sixpointholler, UAhunter, Weedpicker, Calvin, TCG5, georgiaboy1970, BrowningGuy88, Turkey, Solothurn, STALKER8, outdoorguy88, pkcole, Austin1, RidgeRanger, Antelope08, Joe4majors, PikeRoadHunter, coldtrail, HDS64, slanddeerhunter, gundoc, rickyh_2, Treelimb, Big Al, Jtide, Clayton, Elba thermal, SEWoodsWhitetail, OldgoatTN68, GKM, 7 invisible),
796
guests, and 0
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Re: collar conditioning
[Re: Coondog4]
#482668
12/27/12 08:58 AM
12/27/12 08:58 AM
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,715 Henry county
coldtrail
12 point
|
12 point
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,715
Henry county
|
I believe in positive training also. Does the dog know what "NO" means. Once he knows what this command means then you can use it WITH the shock collar.
That being said if he doesn't know what he is doing wrong shocking him will create problems.If possible you may try putting the dog on an very long rope and let him do some short retrieves. When he trys to play just say no or stop and pull him toward you. After this you can incorporate the shocking collar when you give the dog the stop command. The dog will grow out of this but dont let it become a habit.
Vickie Lamb Deal wrote a book that is really good on training dogs with shock collars.
Repetition is the key. I used the long rope idea on a deer chaser I had. The dog would not stop once it smelled a deer. I just kept her in the truck and when I saw a deer I would drop the tailgate. I would yell "no" and when the dog got to the end of the rope I would adjust the behavior. Later I incorporated the shock collar. It took a while but she finially figured out it wasn't worth it.
Last edited by coldtrail; 12/27/12 09:00 AM.
"And the days that I keep my gratitude Higher than my expectations Well, I have really good days" Ray Wylie Hubbard
|
|
|
Re: collar conditioning
[Re: Coondog4]
#482731
12/27/12 09:55 AM
12/27/12 09:55 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 39,451 Marshall County
FurFlyin
Freak of Nature
|
Freak of Nature
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 39,451
Marshall County
|
When the dog gets 15 yards away from you, break and run in the opposite direction. He will chase you. You stop and take the bird. Won't take long to break his habit. No need for a shock collar on a lab, much less a 6 month old puppy, and yes I've successfully trained a dog or three.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
|
|
|
Re: collar conditioning
[Re: Coondog4]
#482734
12/27/12 09:58 AM
12/27/12 09:58 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,168 Florence, Al
AlabamaSwamper
10 point
|
10 point
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,168
Florence, Al
|
Shock collars can be valuable tools if used correctly. I don't mess with labs so I don't know about them.
BTR Scorer in NW Alabama
|
|
|
Re: collar conditioning
[Re: Coondog4]
#482751
12/27/12 10:18 AM
12/27/12 10:18 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 18,997 colbert county
cartervj
Old Mossy Horns
|
Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 18,997
colbert county
|
Use a long check cord to make him bring to hand
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
|
|
|
Re: collar conditioning
[Re: Coondog4]
#483465
12/27/12 10:19 PM
12/27/12 10:19 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 879 Whatley Al
coon_killer
6 point
|
6 point
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 879
Whatley Al
|
bout rurnt a good coondog with one, be careful
QDM my a$$!!!!!!!
|
|
|
Re: collar conditioning
[Re: Coondog4]
#483683
12/28/12 07:29 AM
12/28/12 07:29 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 5,315 Greensboro,Al.USA
Geezer
12 point
|
12 point
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 5,315
Greensboro,Al.USA
|
You have received some very good advice. Take the dog to a lake toss the dummie or bird out into the water. When the dog retrieves the object and swims back grab the object as soon as you can. Give the dog a lot of praise. Shock collars are great training tools in the hands of so people but I have seen good dogs ruined beyond repair in the hands of a person who does not know how to use one.
I am drinking from my saucer cause my cup has overflowed. Thank you Lord
|
|
|
Re: collar conditioning
[Re: Coondog4]
#483746
12/28/12 09:05 AM
12/28/12 09:05 AM
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 5,425 Gordo al
laidback
12 point
|
12 point
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 5,425
Gordo al
|
You must collar condition the dog before a collar is effective. They have to know how to turn off the pressure. Lardy makes a video that goes from start to finish. I do disagree with him on the levels he conditions one with but he is the best.
Oakwood Kennels Gordo Alabama Retriever Training Wood's Gracie RIP 12/08/03 - 01/15/16 HRCH Wood's Rascal MH RIP 07/15/06 - 01/26/17 HRCH Wood's Maggie Wood's Gypsy KJ Just Wood's Sebastian (Saban) Xena Princess Warrior
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, and his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. Unknown
|
|
|
|