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Re: So why don't THEY need to wear orange? [Re: yotetrapper] #474573
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It would have also been hard to write down any buck he killed on his license since he didn't have them with him......

I have a lifetime license and there is no provision for the "so called tag" required by the State.
Worthless legislation with no teeth, but that's for another day.


You MUST have a harvest record in your possession when hunting deer or turkey. Lifetime license or license exempt you still need the harvest record.


Did not know that. I printed one and stuck it in my backpack. More paperwork. I don't really have a problem jumping thru this little hoop, but now this paper is going to end up wet, torn or lost. I just wish if they were going to implement a system, they would do a tagging system with some teeth that is worthwhile. This is just useless BS

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So what if you a bow hunting only club and or private land. Do you have to wear HO during rifle season even though no rifle hunting is allowed on that particular piece of property. I always wear my orange cause there are a lot of outlaws out there, but that was jsut a thought that come into my mind during this discussion

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Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
So what if you a bow hunting only club and or private land. Do you have to wear HO during rifle season even though no rifle hunting is allowed on that particular piece of property. I always wear my orange cause there are a lot of outlaws out there, but that was jsut a thought that come into my mind during this discussion


Yes you have to wear orange on bowhunting only clubs during gun deer season. The exclusion only applies to lands that are state controlled and closed to gun deer hunting on that particular day.


doecommander out...........................



Re: So why don't THEY need to wear orange? [Re: AU .30-06] #475721
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Anything but duck and turkey, I wear HO. Bow hunting or not, I wear HO. Even when gun season goes out, I'll be wearing HO while in the woods. We have hogs so I plan to hunt them during Feb and yes, I'll be wearing HO.

My property is on a large river and poachers are a problem so if I had to check a box... A. ___ Poachers are more likely to shoot at movement. or B. ___ Law-abiding hunters are more likely to shoot at movement. I'd check A!!!!

I'd like to check: C. ___ Repeat poachers should be shot and dumped in river.

I'm just kidding!!!! Just let'em lay where they land and let the hogs eat them!

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Re: So why don't THEY need to wear orange? [Re: AU .30-06] #475853
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I wonder why you don't have to wear orange if you walk through the woods without a gun. Aren't you at just as much risk as if you were hunting?
Also, can I carry a rifle just for my protection when I am not hunting in the woods and go without HO or a license?

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Re: So why don't THEY need to wear orange? [Re: longbow76] #475879
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Originally Posted By: longbow76
I wonder why you don't have to wear orange if you walk through the woods without a gun. Aren't you at just as much risk as if you were hunting?
Also, can I carry a rifle just for my protection when I am not hunting in the woods and go without HO or a license?


I say try it with the GW and let us know how it goes for you....


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Re: So why don't THEY need to wear orange? [Re: longbow76] #475980
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Originally Posted By: longbow76
I wonder why you don't have to wear orange if you walk through the woods without a gun. Aren't you at just as much risk as if you were hunting?
Also, can I carry a rifle just for my protection when I am not hunting in the woods and go without HO or a license?

I have thought about that as well. It all boils down to the definition of hunting. How can someone prove you are hunting if you haven't killed an animal? Is it legal to walk on your own property in the middle of June, with a rifle in your hand? Or is that considered hunting out of season? As of right now we still live in the USA. You should be able to carry a weapon on your property whenever you want to.

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Re: So why don't THEY need to wear orange? [Re: March15] #476170
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Originally Posted By: possum51
Originally Posted By: longbow76
I wonder why you don't have to wear orange if you walk through the woods without a gun. Aren't you at just as much risk as if you were hunting?
Also, can I carry a rifle just for my protection when I am not hunting in the woods and go without HO or a license?

I have thought about that as well. It all boils down to the definition of hunting. How can someone prove you are hunting if you haven't killed an animal? Is it legal to walk on your own property in the middle of June, with a rifle in your hand? Or is that considered hunting out of season? As of right now we still live in the USA. You should be able to carry a weapon on your property whenever you want to.

Interesting debate. Here's another. On our lease a guy runs cattle. He is out there constantly tending to the cows, feeding, ect. Usually he has a mini 14 or some type of rifle for coyotes or stray dogs. He never wears orange. Is he in danger of a ticket? Sometimes we are hunting or sitting on food plots where we can see him. Granted everyone knows where not to shoot, but this goes along with some of what's being said here. I've even seen him walking in the woods with his gun looking for strays.....

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Re: So why don't THEY need to wear orange? [Re: BhamFred] #476285
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
Originally Posted By: longbow76
I wonder why you don't have to wear orange if you walk through the woods without a gun. Aren't you at just as much risk as if you were hunting?
Also, can I carry a rifle just for my protection when I am not hunting in the woods and go without HO or a license?


I say try it with the GW and let us know how it goes for you....

I don't think it would hold up in court.

Re: So why don't THEY need to wear orange? [Re: AU .30-06] #476297
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you don't THINK it would???

Depends on the Judge, county where it took place. Might lose in District Court but win in Circuit after appealing it up...


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Re: So why don't THEY need to wear orange? [Re: BhamFred] #476326
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
you don't THINK it would???

Depends on the Judge, county where it took place. Might lose in District Court but win in Circuit after appealing it up...

I guess the question would be: What constitutes hunting? Someone walking with a .22 squirrel hunting? Someone walking with a .223 shooting coyotes? Someone walking with a .308 shooting stumps or whatever?
As I posted earlier, the cattle farmer who checks his cows and carries a .223??? He wears no orange, is he in danger of a ticket?

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he could be, depends on what the GW saw him do...and how smart/experienced the GW is...


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Re: So why don't THEY need to wear orange? [Re: BhamFred] #476351
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
he could be, depends on what the GW saw him do...and how smart/experienced the GW is...

Splitting hairs I know.... I guess it comes to the judgement of the GW.
This farmer isn't really hunting, but I bet if a state record walked close enough he might be tempted.....
I think the bottom line is just use common sense. You can pick apart any law or regulation you want to..

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pretty much...


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Re: So why don't THEY need to wear orange? [Re: AU .30-06] #476363
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On another note, he feeds these cows mixed sweet feed full of corn and I don't know what else. Anyway there's always corn around where he dumps in the pasture. We hunt probably 400 yards from one of his feeding areas. Never seen deer out there eating, but would we be in danger of a ticket?
Nobody sits and stares at the cow feeding trough, but as I said we are pretty close.

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Originally Posted By: jmj120
You can pick apart any law or regulation you want to..

This is true, however it ought to be cut and dry. Either you're hunting or you're not.

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Why is it human nature to look for the loophole instead of just following a Law that is not inconsiderate or intrusive and is designed for your own personal safety????

Pay the dang fine a quit whining!!!!!

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