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Re: How close are we to actual tag system [Re: Fun4all] #441672
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Re: How close are we to actual tag system [Re: Fun4all] #441753
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Re: How close are we to actual tag system [Re: JW] #441767
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The tag system does work. Badly needed in Alabama. Based upon what I saw harvested last year would make you sick. Several deer(Buck) that dressed out maybe 18 pounds brought to one processor that I saw from frequent stops on the way home from several daily hunts. Many Alabama hunter are not looking at the big picture and Alabama Wildlife Commssion has no clue of what's required to manage the herd. Alabama been down this road before. I have seen a tag system bring the best out in a hunter. It bring out honesty and responsibility and developes a good hunter unlike what I have seen in Alabama. I thought "if its brown it down" had grown out of the Alabama hunter's blood system but it is worst than ever. If the truth hurts do something about it.

Re: How close are we to actual tag system [Re: gobbler] #441905
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But just think how easy it would have been to implement the Barbour Co rule in most other counties. You've either got a legal deer or an illegal deer. No paperwork, no tags, no nothing, except near complete protection of the 1.5 class of bucks. But that ship has sailed.


Here we go again...Why don't you just agree with me and get it over with, you'll eventually get there anyway, don't drag out the pain grin


Never! In fact, it's gonna be just the other way around, with you eventually surrendering. And then we will see Troy post this again:


>>>preacher has another convert.... <<<

I look forward to the day of your baptism as an AR proponent. smile


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Re: How close are we to actual tag system [Re: mackman] #441911
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Originally Posted By: mackman
The tag system does work. Badly needed in Alabama. Based upon what I saw harvested last year would make you sick. Several deer(Buck) that dressed out maybe 18 pounds brought to one processor that I saw from frequent stops on the way home from several daily hunts. Many Alabama hunter are not looking at the big picture and Alabama Wildlife Commssion has no clue of what's required to manage the herd. Alabama been down this road before. I have seen a tag system bring the best out in a hunter. It bring out honesty and responsibility and developes a good hunter unlike what I have seen in Alabama. I thought "if its brown it down" had grown out of the Alabama hunter's blood system but it is worst than ever. If the truth hurts do something about it.


I take it that those "deer(Buck) that dressed out maybe 18 pounds" had visible antlers above the hair line? Or, maybe someone was out blasting does and did not genetically check to see which one would be the next world record buck and accidently shot a deer (buck), or was a hunter's first deer, or they wanted a deer to eat that I am sure the meat taste better than bones.

I still believe if you want the "herd managed", then manage it yourself and promote how well it works for others to willingly follow. That is the best of both worlds because you get to dictate what happens on your property and "your" herd and others get to manage their property and their herd. Or, should the State dictate a one size fits all management strategy and prevents you from managing your property the way you see fit? The knife cuts both ways and I have yet to see the government do a bang up job and managing anything!


"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
Re: How close are we to actual tag system [Re: JW] #441994
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You make some good points. The button bucks killed were a pair. Pissed me off big time. What a sick hunter. Killed for meat. Black man hunting on an elderly lady property. Both could careless about the herd per the processor. The processor knows his cutomers fairly well. These two bucks are just the starters that brings me to the bigger problem. There were many other deer that did not make age 1 1/2. I have been hunting a doe tag system in Florida for 35 years. You have to apply each year but we have never been declined. I started back hunting in Alabama 2006 and you clearly see the herd management problem. My place is next to Fort Rucker. Fort Rucker game manager came to his senses 2012 and made big changes. Too bad that the Alabmam Wildlife Commission are slow readers to see the obvious. Still to many back woods hunters putting presure on the commission. The commission is in the Hope and Change management system. Go to a comission meeting and hear all the non sence from hunters. The big word is "heritage" my family has been in Alabama hunting since before Noah and the stories go on and on. That's a big part of the problem!

Re: How close are we to actual tag system [Re: mackman] #442206
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Originally Posted By: mackman
You make some good points. The button bucks killed were a pair. Pissed me off big time. What a sick hunter. Killed for meat. Black man hunting on an elderly lady property. Both could careless about the herd per the processor. The processor knows his cutomers fairly well. These two bucks are just the starters that brings me to the bigger problem. There were many other deer that did not make age 1 1/2. I have been hunting a doe tag system in Florida for 35 years. You have to apply each year but we have never been declined. I started back hunting in Alabama 2006 and you clearly see the herd management problem. My place is next to Fort Rucker. Fort Rucker game manager came to his senses 2012 and made big changes. Too bad that the Alabmam Wildlife Commission are slow readers to see the obvious. Still to many back woods hunters putting presure on the commission. The commission is in the Hope and Change management system. Go to a comission meeting and hear all the non sence from hunters. The big word is "heritage" my family has been in Alabama hunting since before Noah and the stories go on and on. That's a big part of the problem!

Re: How close are we to actual tag system [Re: JW] #444395
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....Thanks for your kind words....My wife thinks the same as you.... I hear it daily. 42 years and she's still hanging around. She even let me buy a real nice track of hunting property and a nice new tractor, talking about huts. She thinks I have enough hut trees but I keep planting more hut trees. You have confirmed what I have been hearing and the need for me to seek serious professional help. My mother agrees with you as well. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.

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