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Turkey only memberships
#344950
06/04/12 04:51 PM
06/04/12 04:51 PM
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Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,865 Shelby County
BassCat
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I am just curious, this does not effect me because I am a deer and turkey hunter but my question is do you think it is fair for clubs to offer turkey only memberships at half the original membership price?
If a turkey hunter only pays $700 to turkey hunt and no work days and a deer hunter has to pay the full $1400 and do all the work days but don't turkey hunt do you think that is fair?
I understand that deer season is longer but should that be a factor? Also I understand that if the club votes on it and agrees then so be it. Just curious as to what opinions you have.
Last edited by BassCat; 06/04/12 04:52 PM.
If you claim to be a Christian then why do you act like the devil? You will be known by the fruit you bear!
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Re: Turkey only memberships
[Re: BassCat]
#344958
06/04/12 05:04 PM
06/04/12 05:04 PM
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Joined: Dec 2009
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Teacher One
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In our club you cannot have one without the other. It has been this way since 1962 and has worked very well. We don't even allow guests during turkey season as opposed to allowing guests during deer season. We have 3 real "turkey hunters" in the club and they killed 11 birds this spring. That is why we don't allow guests or split memberships. That is a good question you have asked!
I can't stand a thief.
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Re: Turkey only memberships
[Re: BassCat]
#344960
06/04/12 05:08 PM
06/04/12 05:08 PM
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Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 3,872 Spanish Fort
teamduckdown
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I think it is fair. Most work days consist of cleaning out shooting houses, planting food plots, or trimming trails. Turkey hunters dont use the shooting houses, and food plots dont really benefit them either. As for the roads, I cant speak for everyone, but I really dont need the trails either.
Now, do I think it would be fair if turkey only members were required one work day? Sure it would be.
But the short season also comes into play a little in my mind.
But, all in all, I personally have no problem with the way it was stated in the original question.
Turkeys be damned.
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Re: Turkey only memberships
[Re: BassCat]
#345010
06/04/12 06:51 PM
06/04/12 06:51 PM
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Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 4,713 War Eagle, USA
Bucktrot
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It's all about what the members want and how the rules are laid out.
Maybe it should be 5/8 of the price of full membership. Especially if clover is being planted and there is habitat management taking place especially during the spring.
It is NOT fair for the president, the landowner or whomever is in charge, to sell turkey memberships and not disclose this to the members who joins the club.
So, make sure to ask this question BEFORE you join a club.
Last edited by Bucktrot; 06/04/12 06:59 PM.
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Re: Turkey only memberships
[Re: BassCat]
#345300
06/05/12 10:21 AM
06/05/12 10:21 AM
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AlabamaSwamper
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I wouldn't consider 45 days "short" for the season, which is what it is in 90% of the state.
If you have nice food plots, you can bet those "turkey" hunters are using them and should do work on them.
Good idea though for those clubs with no turkey hunters are maybe really low numbers on big acreage.
BTR Scorer in NW Alabama
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Re: Turkey only memberships
[Re: Teacher One]
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06/05/12 10:36 AM
06/05/12 10:36 AM
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aldoghunter
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In our club you cannot have one without the other. It has been this way since 1962 and has worked very well. We don't even allow guests during turkey season as opposed to allowing guests during deer season. We have 3 real "turkey hunters" in the club and they killed 11 birds this spring. That is why we don't allow guests or split memberships. That is a good question you have asked! I am not a turkey hunter so I really dont know but sounds like 11 birds for 3 people is a little over the limit.Am I right on this?
Be safe & have fun
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Re: Turkey only memberships
[Re: BassCat]
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06/05/12 10:44 AM
06/05/12 10:44 AM
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16 would be over the limit
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Re: Turkey only memberships
[Re: aldoghunter]
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06/05/12 10:48 AM
06/05/12 10:48 AM
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muzziehead
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You are allowed 5 turkeys per season.
I would think that the club would offer a deer/turkey membership to its primary deer hunting members for $2,100.00 and establish a maximum number of members. If the existing deer hunters dont want to turkey hunt, then I would have no problem in offering Turkey memberships to help with the cost of planting and upkeep on the club. But you can bet, they would be invited to attend work days just like everyone else or contribute some form of donation to cover them not being there to help.
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Re: Turkey only memberships
[Re: BassCat]
#345405
06/05/12 01:42 PM
06/05/12 01:42 PM
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truedouble
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price is fair but turkey hunter should help with work days, if the help is needed as additional help. Deer hunters get more out of foodplots than turkey hunters but foodplots do typically help turkey hunters kill birds.
As someone that would only want to lease a place close to the house for turkey hunting I would propose having turkey hunter only memberships that pays the same rate as what the deer hunters pay. That way you would get the money needed to pay the lease but with half the number of turkey hunters. This is a win, win for the deer hunter than doesn't turkey hunt b/c less deer hunters and for the turkey hunter that does't deer hunt there are less turkey hunters. For those that do both it's still a plus b/c you have same money but less hunters all around.
Last edited by truedouble; 06/05/12 01:44 PM.
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Re: Turkey only memberships
[Re: AlabamaSwamper]
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06/05/12 07:33 PM
06/05/12 07:33 PM
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teamduckdown
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I wouldn't consider 45 days "short" for the season, which is what it is in 90% of the state.
If you have nice food plots, you can bet those "turkey" hunters are using them and should do work on them.
Good idea though for those clubs with no turkey hunters are maybe really low numbers on big acreage. 45 days is short when you consider deer hunters get 108 days. Most clubs in Alabam dont plant any food beneficial to turkeys in their food plots (maybe a little clover). And most guys who turkey hunt will agree, alot of times the plots are too tall to hunt on by the time March 15th comes around.
Turkeys be damned.
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Re: Turkey only memberships
[Re: gobblebox]
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06/06/12 09:49 AM
06/06/12 09:49 AM
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Joined: May 2008
Posts: 244 Northport, AL
BamaRich
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I lease turkey rights from folks that dont turkey hunt,it helps their club make extra money,there is no way I would pay full membership to just turkey hunt,usually $1 per acre is what we will pay and sometimes less,if a club has turkey hunters then the turkey hunters should decide if turkey only memberships should be offered or not. X2... have done several turkey-only memberships over the past 5 years and offer a couple of additional ideas. First, you're talking about a much smaller season than deer hunting - and you have to factor in the fact that none of turkey season falls around work holidays like Christmas, Thanksgiving, and New Years. On any one of my places, I've not used the property more than 6-8 times in a given season. Second, doing a turkey-only membership is often "boom" or "bust". Three places I've been a turkey-only member on, I've killed no birds there that season. In one case, it was primarily due to neighbors driving through the property (which we didn't know prior to signing up) and in another, it was due to the fact the other turkey hunters decided they would monopolize the hunting land "their way"... designing the rules so that the best areas could all be signed out by two people. With that type of experience in the past, there's no way I'll pay more than half the price of regular dues to turkey hunt. Experience, though, has taught me the questions I need to ask prior to joining a club for that purpose.
Last edited by BamaRich; 06/06/12 09:50 AM.
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Re: Turkey only memberships
[Re: BamaRich]
#345821
06/06/12 10:55 AM
06/06/12 10:55 AM
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truedouble
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I lease turkey rights from folks that dont turkey hunt,it helps their club make extra money,there is no way I would pay full membership to just turkey hunt,usually $1 per acre is what we will pay and sometimes less,if a club has turkey hunters then the turkey hunters should decide if turkey only memberships should be offered or not. X2... have done several turkey-only memberships over the past 5 years and offer a couple of additional ideas. First, you're talking about a much smaller season than deer hunting - and you have to factor in the fact that none of turkey season falls around work holidays like Christmas, Thanksgiving, and New Years. On any one of my places, I've not used the property more than 6-8 times in a given season. Second, doing a turkey-only membership is often "boom" or "bust". Three places I've been a turkey-only member on, I've killed no birds there that season. In one case, it was primarily due to neighbors driving through the property (which we didn't know prior to signing up) and in another, it was due to the fact the other turkey hunters decided they would monopolize the hunting land "their way"... designing the rules so that the best areas could all be signed out by two people. With that type of experience in the past, there's no way I'll pay more than half the price of regular dues to turkey hunt. Experience, though, has taught me the questions I need to ask prior to joining a club for that purpose. don't you run the same exact risk with a deer lease? I buddy of mine has forked out over $20k over the past 5 years and hasn't killed a buck. Granted he is only going to shoot something around 130 or better but still, no guarantees either way. I can see your point about less time on the property, etc., but most turkey hunters I know probably put in almost as many morning during the 45 day turkey season as they do in the 100+ days of deer season. Reason being in general, the best time to kill a turkey is with in the first hour and half of light so a lot of us go hunt before work. Can't really successfully pull that off during deer season. I do agree that a turkey only lease should arguably be less than a deer only lease but only b/c turkey hunters don't rely on green fields and don't use shooting houses, etc. and in many cases arrive in the morning and then leave a few hours later, so if there is a camp house they probably don't use that but a few times either. Also have to consider the cost of the lease. For example a deer lease in an avg. county on avg. land might only be $500 a year. I'd pay that in a heart beat if it has turkeys on it. On the other hand a lease in the black belt or a good piece of property in Jackson Co. might be anywhere from $2k to $10k a year b/c of the quality of the deer. I would not be willing to pay that for a turkey lease cause the "quality" of a turkey doesn't change from county to county. You either have birds or you don't.
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Re: Turkey only memberships
[Re: truedouble]
#345842
06/06/12 12:00 PM
06/06/12 12:00 PM
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I buddy of mine has forked out over $20k over the past 5 years and hasn't killed a buck. Granted he is only going to shoot something around 130 or better but still, no guarantees either way. Anybody who spends that kind of money to hunt whitetails in Alabama is either 1. wealthy and so it doesn't matter or 2. a working man who is a total dumb arse who needs some counseling in good decision making, regardless of the kind of bucks they kill on the place.
"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
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