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U.S. Forces carried the Load of Defending Israel #4118403
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I've read this on several news sites both liberal and conservative.

Only about half of the approximately 330 Missiles and drones launched by Iran towards Israel actually functioned properly. Of the ones that were left, about 160. that did appear to function properly, the United States forces shot down about 80 of those. The rest were shot down by a combination of British, French, Jordanian and Israeli forces.

Interesting...

It's good to know that our capabilities in shooting down swarms of missiles and drones appears to be pretty robust. Not only that but our capabilities to coordinate the shooting down of those drones with a bunch of other countries is pretty damned robust as well.

The Russians and the Chinese had to have taken notice. I doubt they have the capability to do that. I know Russia doesn't. When Ukraine can blow up your drone factory with a jury rigged Cessna, then your air defenses aren't exactly state of the art.

Ironic that we can shoot down a swarm of drones and missiles, but a Chinese balloon can fly all the way across the United States...

Article for those that read...

https://theintercept.com/2024/04/15/iran-attack-israel-drones-missiles/

Re: U.S. Forces carried the Load of Defending Israel [Re: Irishguy] #4118414
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The more I think about this the more it appears that there’s an agenda to keep the US and other allies speaking about Israel not hitting Iran but behind the scenes they’re urging them to strike the nuclear facilities the Persians have built
Either way there is a massive strike coming


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Re: U.S. Forces carried the Load of Defending Israel [Re: deadeye48] #4118422
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Originally Posted by deadeye48
The more I think about this the more it appears that there’s an agenda to keep the US and other allies speaking about Israel not hitting Iran but behind the scenes they’re urging them to strike the nuclear facilities the Persians have built
Either way there is a massive strike coming


There may be, but I'm not as sure as you are about it.

It was weird that Iran said after the attempted strike, that they consider the matter concluded. That makes me think that the whole thing is somehow staged and theatrical.

I think the Shadow Government and Military Industrial Complex wants there to always be some kind of regional conflicts constantly stirred up so they can take our tax dollars and spend them on ever more complex weapons of war, but at the same time they don't want another full scale global conflict like WWI or WWII or even worse a nuclear conflict.



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Re: U.S. Forces carried the Load of Defending Israel [Re: Irishguy] #4118424
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Originally Posted by Irishguy
Originally Posted by deadeye48
The more I think about this the more it appears that there’s an agenda to keep the US and other allies speaking about Israel not hitting Iran but behind the scenes they’re urging them to strike the nuclear facilities the Persians have built
Either way there is a massive strike coming


There may be, but I'm not as sure as you are about it.

It was weird that Iran said after the attempted strike, that they consider the matter concluded. That makes me think that the whole thing is somehow staged and theatrical.




Whatever it is just appears very odd and telling but What is the question


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Re: U.S. Forces carried the Load of Defending Israel [Re: Irishguy] #4118426
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That first round from Iran was a test to see how we would handle it and if we could. We did, with a lot of help, and Israel did not do it on their own, so it re-enforces Israel dependence on us.


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Re: U.S. Forces carried the Load of Defending Israel [Re: Irishguy] #4118435
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What any government says in these days, we have to take with not just a grain of salt, but a whole 50lb. bag of mineral salt. Since the overthrow of the Shaw, does anyone trust Iran? I don't even think Russia and China trust them, but they are against the U.S. so ... I can see Russian and China using Iran as a proxy to test the defense capabilities and what they need to work on with their arsenals.

What is more concerning to what is happening over there is what is happening here! There are way too many anti Israel stuff going on, look at all this. This seems eerily similar to the LGQBT movements in the 80's, 90's and 00's.


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Re: U.S. Forces carried the Load of Defending Israel [Re: Irishguy] #4118478
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Russia and Iran have 3000 years of dealing with each other. To them this a relatively calm period. But yes, I agree a culture war has been launched against Israel just like the mental illness crowd has launched a war on everybody. Public opinion is Israels greatest weapon and threat. That has been known for a long time, and its also part of the conspiracy as to why there are so many Jews in the media business.


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Re: U.S. Forces carried the Load of Defending Israel [Re: Irishguy] #4118493
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Again I'll say that part of this was a test. Iran was testing not only the resolve of Israel's allies, but just how effective are their defenses. Because it was after Israel blowing up a General, Iran was able to do this as a save face type of attack when harming Israel really wasn't their ultimate motive in this and causing too big of an international uproar. If some of the missile got through, then great, if not then they got the intelligence they needed for a bigger, more serious attempt.

My strongly held belief is that even though this didn't cause massive harm to Israel, they should not let their guard down an iota, as Iran is not through. Maybe for the time being, but they still hate Israelis and want to destroy them.


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Re: U.S. Forces carried the Load of Defending Israel [Re: Irishguy] #4118534
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100% economics. Israel buys lots of defense equipment from US military contractors, who in turn have been paying big campaign checks to Congress. Low intensity, strict rules of engagement conflicts are what these military contractors are comfortable with. Not top dollar profits, but regular profits. That’s one part of the puzzle. A full blown war between Israel and Iran might let the nuclear genie out of the bottle, but it will negatively affect Europe’s economy because of crude oil supply and trade routes between Europe and Asia, Europe’s economy tanking will not be a positive to our economy, even though we can survive without Middle Eastern oil. Iran should have been dealt with in 1979, but it wasn’t and every year dealing with them has a bigger price tag.

Re: U.S. Forces carried the Load of Defending Israel [Re: Irishguy] #4118535
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It would be nice if we could believe anything we are being told is the truth, but we cant. No telling what really happened or why. And really the only way it affects me is how much my next tank of gas will cost.

Re: U.S. Forces carried the Load of Defending Israel [Re: jwalker77] #4118537
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
It would be nice if we could believe anything we are being told is the truth, but we cant. No telling what really happened or why. And really the only way it affects me is how much my next tank of gas will cost.

Re: U.S. Forces carried the Load of Defending Israel [Re: Irishguy] #4118538
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Thanks for sharing I’ll read later. All a planned event when it’s advertised a week ahead.

Re: U.S. Forces carried the Load of Defending Israel [Re: Irishguy] #4118555
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counterstrike expected in the next 24-48 hours
just my opinion


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Originally Posted by goodman_hunter
counterstrike expected in the next 24-48 hours
just my opinion


If it is it will be a carefully measured response that has been approved by the Global Power Structure.

Re: U.S. Forces carried the Load of Defending Israel [Re: Irishguy] #4118591
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What was the economics of that attack:
Iran = _______$
US = ________$
Israel = ______$


I bet that we are using million $ weapons to shoot down thousand $ drones.


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Re: U.S. Forces carried the Load of Defending Israel [Re: Beer Belly] #4118599
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Originally Posted by Beer Belly

What was the economics of that attack:
Iran = _______$
US = ________$
Israel = ______$


I bet that we are using million $ weapons to shoot down thousand $ drones.


you also have to calculate what the drone might destroy. Like say a TPP (thermal power plant) and several electrical substations
or your fleet of F35's
etc

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Re: U.S. Forces carried the Load of Defending Israel [Re: Irishguy] #4118602
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I'm not sure the whole thing wasnt staged by us and iran to try and make Brandon look good going into the elections.

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Originally Posted by goodman_hunter
Originally Posted by Beer Belly

What was the economics of that attack:
Iran = _______$
US = ________$
Israel = ______$


I bet that we are using million $ weapons to shoot down thousand $ drones.


you also have to calculate what the drone might destroy. Like say a TPP (thermal power plant) and several electrical substations
or your fleet of F35's
etc



Unfortunately both of y'all are correct.

Re: U.S. Forces carried the Load of Defending Israel [Re: Red Fox] #4118608
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Originally Posted by Red Fox
I'm not sure the whole thing wasnt staged by us and iran to try and make Brandon look good going into the elections.


Don't know how that looks too good on Joe , unless they also have a cease fire , end of war deal worked out already. When Trump was in office nothing even got started. He brokered peace deals and got many of our boys and girls home. Some say he should have won the Nobel Peace Prize for the Abraham Accords. It was all peace and prosperity under DJT. flag



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Re: U.S. Forces carried the Load of Defending Israel [Re: Irishguy] #4118639
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The agenda is to have "fights" break out that supports our war machine to make more $ that the taxpayer funds. It's nothing more than corporate welfare. Thats why we always have to pay more and do more than any other country.

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