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Drastic Measures #4114990
04/10/24 12:53 PM
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alex city
oakachoy Offline OP
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So, I dropped my taxes off this morning for my annual extension. My CPA lady is like minded as most of us.

She brought up an interesting point about the elections or farce if you will.

"what if" someone organized a mass effort to stop paying taxes due. After serious consideration if there was a concerted effort I believe that I would get on the train.

Curious what a lot of Aldeer would think about this.


WM Hunter "Trump literally sacrificed himself, his family and all of his businesses for this country.
He literally is a true American hero. And True American Patriot - warts and all."
Re: Drastic Measures [Re: oakachoy] #4115009
04/10/24 01:19 PM
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Not a bad idea, but the downside is IF it doesn't pan out in our favor, we're the new Jan 6 arrestees....and hunted down with prejudice!


experience is a freakin' awesome teacher....
Re: Drastic Measures [Re: oakachoy] #4115010
04/10/24 01:19 PM
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Sounds like a recipe to just pay a bunch of penalties and interest. You're not going to beat the IRS.

Re: Drastic Measures [Re: oakachoy] #4115012
04/10/24 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by oakachoy

So, I dropped my taxes off this morning for my annual extension. My CPA lady is like minded as most of us.

She brought up an interesting point about the elections or farce if you will.

"what if" someone organized a mass effort to stop paying taxes due. After serious consideration if there was a concerted effort I believe that I would get on the train.

Curious what a lot of Aldeer would think about this.

Your CPA has read Ayn Rand's novel "Atlas Shrugged".


Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
Re: Drastic Measures [Re: oakachoy] #4115019
04/10/24 01:37 PM
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I would prefer to stay out of federal prison.

Re: Drastic Measures [Re: BurningBright] #4115021
04/10/24 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BurningBright
I would prefer to stay out of federal prison.

They can’t put all of us in prison.

Re: Drastic Measures [Re: oakachoy] #4115059
04/10/24 02:32 PM
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Montgomery, Alabama
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I think a war was fought around 160 years ago over taxes that killed over a million people on U.S.soil. Didn’t pan out too well for one side.


It be's that way sometimes.

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Re: Drastic Measures [Re: oakachoy] #4115064
04/10/24 02:45 PM
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As much as I hate taxes, and I really really hate them, I wouldn't want to live in the purge type environment that no taxes would create.

Re: Drastic Measures [Re: oakachoy] #4115067
04/10/24 02:48 PM
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Maybe, I should have likeminded like some of us! Guess that it depends on how big that train gets. All theoretical of course.


WM Hunter "Trump literally sacrificed himself, his family and all of his businesses for this country.
He literally is a true American hero. And True American Patriot - warts and all."
Re: Drastic Measures [Re: Hayzeus] #4115087
04/10/24 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hayzeus
Originally Posted by BurningBright
I would prefer to stay out of federal prison.

They can’t put all of us in prison.


No prison. They will just garnish all your assets.

Re: Drastic Measures [Re: oakachoy] #4115134
04/10/24 04:58 PM
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Most people get paid via payroll, ie the payroll tax. No way to opt out of that that I'm aware of.

Re: Drastic Measures [Re: oakachoy] #4115153
04/10/24 05:26 PM
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blount county alabama
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Our state govt screws us over so they wont lose fed money. "We have to go along with it so they wont quit sending the federal money". I say we say "screw you, youre not getting any more money." Let the fed govt do without for a while. Taxation without representation is alive and well. They are using my tax money to fund sin. I have a big problem with that. We need to tell them to pound sand. Thats the kindest most christian way i can say that

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Re: Drastic Measures [Re: hallb] #4115171
04/10/24 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hallb
Most people get paid via payroll, ie the payroll tax. No way to opt out of that that I'm aware of.

You could claim so many deductions that you have next to nothing taken out.

Re: Drastic Measures [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #4115203
04/10/24 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Originally Posted by hallb
Most people get paid via payroll, ie the payroll tax. No way to opt out of that that I'm aware of.

You could claim so many deductions that you have next to nothing taken out.

Starve the beast!! Make sure you set back the extra money you take home and pay your taxes as late as legally possible so that there are no penalties. If enough people did this, a huge amount of money being used interest free by the beast aka the government would dry up. This would send a message.

Re: Drastic Measures [Re: oakachoy] #4115267
04/10/24 08:42 PM
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They just add zeros to to the digital money we never see.

Re: Drastic Measures [Re: oakachoy] #4115307
04/10/24 09:46 PM
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They already spend more than they take in. If taxpayers revolted and refused to pay, they’d just have a bigger deficit. Then they would pass legislation to lock us all up and seize our assets, paid for by more deficit spending. Refusing to pay won’t stop the spending problem we currently have. And it won’t stop the eventual collapse of the dollar. Once the dollar collapses, the entitlement checks stop coming, and the average citizen realizes all they worked for just went up in smoke because the elites stole it all, that’s when the chit hits the fan. By my estimation we have a slim chance to avoid that SHTF scenario, and refusing to pay taxes won’t be the way that slim chance happens.

Re: Drastic Measures [Re: oakachoy] #4115317
04/10/24 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by oakachoy

So, I dropped my taxes off this morning for my annual extension. My CPA lady is like minded as most of us.

She brought up an interesting point about the elections or farce if you will.

"what if" someone organized a mass effort to stop paying taxes due. After serious consideration if there was a concerted effort I believe that I would get on the train.

Curious what a lot of Aldeer would think about this.

I thought about this. The NRA except fight for lowering taxes.


"And the days that I keep my gratitude
Higher than my expectations
Well, I have really good days" Ray Wylie Hubbard
Re: Drastic Measures [Re: oakachoy] #4115332
04/10/24 11:36 PM
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I'm currently being audited so yeah.....I get it.


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Re: Drastic Measures [Re: Big Game Hunter] #4115338
04/11/24 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Game Hunter
I'm currently being audited so yeah.....I get it.


That ranks right up there with things I am super scared of happening to me.


If you live to be a hundred, I want to live to be a hundred minus one day, so I never have to live without you.---Winnie the Pooh
Re: Drastic Measures [Re: oakachoy] #4115342
04/11/24 04:22 AM
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I have a buddy. He's a little farther out there than most of us. He's somewhat of a legal scholar among other things. He's almost like one of those Sovereign Citizen kind of guys.

He told me one day that there was this guy, (I believe in Florida) that successfully sued the county over property taxes and won. He doesn't have to pay property taxes anymore.
His land is exempt now. Last time we talked he said he was going to represent himself and do the same thing. I have some egg cartons I need to return to him and a pound of Organic Ethiopian coffee beans I need to give him, so I'll ask him how that's going.

Personally on our cabin and 10 acres, my taxes are less than $500 a year so even though I'm against it, I just have better stuff to do with my time than sue the government over $500 and all the time, money and legal knowledge that would entail.

Regarding income tax...

I've managed to whittle down what money is actually getting taxed. Fortunately in Alabama the state doesn't tax pensions or Social Security.

Based on my calculations using the latest 2024 tax tables in my spreadsheet our total extrapolated tax rate in retirement will only be 8.22%, which ain't bad.

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