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Re: The Colonel and the Fox [Re: Bustinbeards] #4113474
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things that make you go hmmmmmmm
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I hunted Fred T Stimpson this weekend and fox needs to work on getting some more turkeys on that place. I think they trapped too many😂


doecommander out...........................



Re: The Colonel and the Fox [Re: Bustinbeards] #4114589
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That was an outstanding documentary.

Re: The Colonel and the Fox [Re: Bustinbeards] #4115277
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Finally watched. Very interesting part for me - is the fact that Fox received 10 hens first week of February (I’m assuming from Stimpson sanctuary?). No adult male. In a place that had a non-huntable population of birds. He said he counted 85 poults by Fall.

Now - you DGT disciples, the guys that holler late breeding - April breeding, the guys that think an area needs multiple gobblers alive as long as possible in the Spring - y’all got an explanation on how that happened? Gosh dang mystery we got here.

Re: The Colonel and the Fox [Re: turkey247] #4115282
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Originally Posted by turkey247
Finally watched. Very interesting part for me - is the fact that Fox received 10 hens first week of February (I’m assuming from Stimpson sanctuary?). No adult male. In a place that had a non-huntable population of birds. He said he counted 85 poults by Fall.

Now - you DGT disciples, the guys that holler late breeding - April breeding, the guys that think an area needs multiple gobblers alive as long as possible in the Spring - y’all got an explanation on how that happened? Gosh dang mystery we got here.


I was wondering about that part myself


We dont rent pigs
Re: The Colonel and the Fox [Re: CNC] #4115287
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by turkey247
Finally watched. Very interesting part for me - is the fact that Fox received 10 hens first week of February (I’m assuming from Stimpson sanctuary?). No adult male. In a place that had a non-huntable population of birds. He said he counted 85 poults by Fall.

Now - you DGT disciples, the guys that holler late breeding - April breeding, the guys that think an area needs multiple gobblers alive as long as possible in the Spring - y’all got an explanation on how that happened? Gosh dang mystery we got here.


I was wondering about that part myself


https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...genesis/14380022767E3FE918B12C6C7F5FE225

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9776051/

Research indicates turkeys can lay fertile eggs without ever coming into contact with a male. Additionally, research indicates the eggs are almost always males when this occurs. It’s called parthenogenesis.

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Re: The Colonel and the Fox [Re: chevydude2015] #4115293
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Originally Posted by chevydude2015
Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by turkey247
Finally watched. Very interesting part for me - is the fact that Fox received 10 hens first week of February (I’m assuming from Stimpson sanctuary?). No adult male. In a place that had a non-huntable population of birds. He said he counted 85 poults by Fall.

Now - you DGT disciples, the guys that holler late breeding - April breeding, the guys that think an area needs multiple gobblers alive as long as possible in the Spring - y’all got an explanation on how that happened? Gosh dang mystery we got here.


I was wondering about that part myself


https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...genesis/14380022767E3FE918B12C6C7F5FE225

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9776051/

Research indicates turkeys can lay fertile eggs without ever coming into contact with a male. Additionally, research indicates the eggs are almost always males when this occurs. It’s called parthenogenesis.


They had plenty of contact with males where they came from in January.

Re: The Colonel and the Fox [Re: Bustinbeards] #4115294
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I'm not disputing that, or that they found one of the very few gobblers in the area. Just another plausible explanation by science thumbup

Re: The Colonel and the Fox [Re: chevydude2015] #4115296
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Originally Posted by chevydude2015
I'm not disputing that, or that they found one of the very few gobblers in the area. Just another plausible explanation by science thumbup


I’m with you. The point - this kind of stuff demolishes DGT and the need to keep pushing seasons later in the Spring.

Re: The Colonel and the Fox [Re: turkey247] #4115298
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Originally Posted by turkey247
Originally Posted by chevydude2015
I'm not disputing that, or that they found one of the very few gobblers in the area. Just another plausible explanation by science thumbup


I’m with you. The point - this kind of stuff demolishes DGT and the need to keep pushing seasons later in the Spring.

Naw, they just lucky they found the only dominant gobbler that really existed but had been hiding in the area. laugh


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Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes
On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
Re: The Colonel and the Fox [Re: turkey247] #4115299
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Originally Posted by turkey247
Originally Posted by chevydude2015
I'm not disputing that, or that they found one of the very few gobblers in the area. Just another plausible explanation by science thumbup


I’m with you. The point - this kind of stuff demolishes DGT and the need to keep pushing seasons later in the Spring.


Agreed. I subscribe to Craig Harper's theory that nesting and poult habitat plays a much bigger role than the supposed issue of hens having time to be bred.

Re: The Colonel and the Fox [Re: Bustinbeards] #4115310
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I’ve seen people mention that before but I didn’t realize they would do it consistently enough to restock an area with just hens and expect good results.

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We dont rent pigs
Re: The Colonel and the Fox [Re: Bustinbeards] #4115419
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I would love to have 10 hens to put on our place.

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