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Feds and police powers? How did we get here? #4107519
03/26/24 07:58 PM
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How did we get to the point where we have multiple federal agencies having the authority to arrest citizens? How can the ATF, FBI, IRS have the power to lock citizens up. It's crazy when you think about how our founders intended this country be run, with strong state and and a weak central authority. I believe all these agencies need to have there power castrated.


IMO all warrants and arrest should go through the local authorities. If the ATF has an issue they should get a warrant from a local judge and the local police should serve it. It just doesn't set well with me.


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Higher than my expectations
Well, I have really good days" Ray Wylie Hubbard
Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here? [Re: coldtrail] #4107525
03/26/24 08:10 PM
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They should all be disbanded.

Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here? [Re: Lockjaw] #4107541
03/26/24 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
They should all be disbanded.

THIS


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Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here? [Re: coldtrail] #4107542
03/26/24 08:38 PM
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Shay's Rebellion and the Whiskey Rebellion. Just blame George Washington.

Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here? [Re: coldtrail] #4107602
03/26/24 10:11 PM
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Well, Coldtrail is now on their list.


Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here? [Re: jawbone] #4107660
03/27/24 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jawbone
Well, Coldtrail is now on their list.


Every person that posts on this website is on their list.


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Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here? [Re: coldtrail] #4107676
03/27/24 07:31 AM
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Don't forget Homeland Security, whatever that is. That's who is raiding Pdiddly's homes.

Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here? [Re: Beer Belly] #4107677
03/27/24 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Beer Belly
Originally Posted by jawbone
Well, Coldtrail is now on their list.


Every person that posts on this website is on their list.

This


There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be!

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Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here? [Re: Beer Belly] #4107678
03/27/24 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Beer Belly
Originally Posted by jawbone
Well, Coldtrail is now on their list.
you can bet your left and right nuts

Every person that posts on this website is on their list.

Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here? [Re: coldtrail] #4107681
03/27/24 07:46 AM
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I bet that list is pretty damn long.

Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here? [Re: daylate] #4107687
03/27/24 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by daylate
I bet that list is pretty damn long.



Some are higher on it than others

Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here? [Re: coldtrail] #4107699
03/27/24 08:15 AM
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I am not a fan of the local sheriff either. That is a political office, and is thus, subject to corruption. Just take a look at Jefferson County, and I am not very impressed with Shelby either. There needs to be a civilian oversite board that monitors them. All with term limits to prevent corruption.

Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here? [Re: Lockjaw] #4107760
03/27/24 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
I am not a fan of the local sheriff either. That is a political office, and is thus, subject to corruption. Just take a look at Jefferson County, and I am not very impressed with Shelby either. There needs to be a civilian oversite board that monitors them. All with term limits to prevent corruption.

"Civilian oversite", theres a novel idea. I would imagine those folks would have the highest suicide rate of anyone in the country. If not the fastest growth of wealth. Could go either way. I figure at this point the corruption is unstoppable.

Last edited by jwalker77; 03/27/24 10:15 AM.
Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here? [Re: coldtrail] #4107797
03/27/24 11:26 AM
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The problem is the entire system is corrupt. You get a ticket and walk into court, you are guilty until proven innocent. The cop can outright lie, and it doesn't matter. These political party people do the same thing. They all lie, and get away with it. The Bidens are busted cold on corruption, and nothing will happen. Hillary was busted cold, nothing happened. Hunter, cold busted on a federal gun charge. Think one of the Trump kids could have done that and not been swiftly prosecuted, with no deal?

The big diff is Trump has to pay to defend himself, these other folks, the system defended them on our dime. Heck the same guy who worked out the sweetheart deal for Hunter is the "independent counsel" looking into him. They purposefully let statutes of limitations expire. It's an illegal appt, and what has been done about it? ZIP.

Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here? [Re: Beer Belly] #4107875
03/27/24 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Beer Belly
Originally Posted by jawbone
Well, Coldtrail is now on their list.


Every person that posts on this website is on their list.

But some are highlighted and have a file. No kidding. Be careful what you post if you don't want gov't scrutiny.


Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here? [Re: coldtrail] #4107881
03/27/24 01:55 PM
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John F Kennedy was assassinated because he broke up the most powerful alphabet agency in this country.


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God Bless America!
Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here? [Re: Lockjaw] #4107883
03/27/24 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
The problem is the entire system is corrupt. You get a ticket and walk into court, you are guilty until proven innocent. The cop can outright lie, and it doesn't matter.



The solution to this is to have a system where LEOs have no incentive to lie or give citations to people that didn't commit the offense.

While it is true that Sheriffs are political creatures in our state, along with Judges, at least with political offices, they can be voted out. My mind has often gone to thinking about a way to remove politics from law enforcement. Sadly, that is hard to do as even nonpolitical positions are appointed by politicians who usually expect, often demand, loyalty to them and their views. Been there, done that. BTW, it cost me further promotions and titles, but I sleep well at night, at least that doesn't keep me awake.


Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here? [Re: coldtrail] #4107928
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Yeah but they don't seem to get voted out, until people get really sick of them. There was a bunch came out about the Jeff Co sheriff last election. He is still there. It's like when a scandal comes out, and they don't lose the election, they double down and it gets even worse.

I should have went to law school. I could have made a fortune being an enemy of the state. LOL!!

Re: Feds and police powers? How did we get here? [Re: jawbone] #4109757
03/31/24 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jawbone
Originally Posted by Lockjaw
The problem is the entire system is corrupt. You get a ticket and walk into court, you are guilty until proven innocent. The cop can outright lie, and it doesn't matter.



Been there, done that. BTW, it cost me further promotions and titles, but I sleep well at night, at least that doesn't keep me awake.


Yup, been there done that, but I too sleep better and can hold my head high.


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"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, for the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of Sin and Death"

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