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Presidential Election (HOW)
#4103565
03/19/24 12:55 PM
03/19/24 12:55 PM
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Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 25,133 Guntersville, AL
IDOT
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I am Cornholio
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I am Cornholio
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 25,133
Guntersville, AL
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What would be a better system than what we have now as far as casting votes and making sure that:
1- Everybody's vote matters 2-The Politics of voting is taken out of it.
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.
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Re: Presidential Election (HOW)
[Re: IDOT]
#4103571
03/19/24 01:07 PM
03/19/24 01:07 PM
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Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 10,599 Central, Al
Bustinbeards
Booner
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Booner
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Central, Al
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Are you a legal citizen
Have an ID and can can prove both.
Voting in person on the first Tuesday in November and on paper.
Pretty simple
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
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Re: Presidential Election (HOW)
[Re: Bustinbeards]
#4103574
03/19/24 01:12 PM
03/19/24 01:12 PM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 10,518
abolt300
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Booner
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Are you a legal citizen, Have an ID and can can prove both. Voting in person on the first Tuesday in November and on paper. Pretty simple Votes are then hand counted by a group of 5 people (3 dems and 2 repubs) a total is achieved. Votes are then re-hand counted by a different group of people (3 repubs and 2 dems) and total achieved. It the totals between the two groups match without exception, then the totals are certified and sent to a central collection point where the above process is repeated, until the state has a winner.
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Re: Presidential Election (HOW)
[Re: IDOT]
#4103576
03/19/24 01:14 PM
03/19/24 01:14 PM
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Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 3,554 Lower Alabama
Andalusia
10 point
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10 point
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Florida system seems pretty sound now.
"If you are the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room"
"How you do Anything, is how you do Everything"
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"
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Re: Presidential Election (HOW)
[Re: IDOT]
#4103597
03/19/24 02:00 PM
03/19/24 02:00 PM
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Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,997 Columbia, SC
CeeHawk37
10 point
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10 point
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It would probably take a convention of states to make this an amendment to the constitution to get any of this accomplished but if it were possible here’s what I’d like to see.
Election Day is a national holiday.
End winner take all states in the electoral college. Delegates are awarded by the winner of each congressional district. Award the final two delegates per state to the overall winner in that state. This would ensure that every congressional district gets their say in the final tally. California, New York, and Illinois would no longer be solidly blue. Same goes for Bama, MS, SC, or the other solid red states. But every vote would count, and the major metro areas wouldn’t be able to outweigh the rural area’s vote.
Allow only 1 week prior to Election Day for absentee or early voting.
State issued photo ID required for all voting.
Paper receipts with individual serial numbers for the ballot cast. All ballots go into a publicly searchable database and each voter can search their serial number to verify their vote was counted correctly.
Late votes and incorrectly filled out ballots are all trashed with no ballot curing allowed.
No same day registration.
Voter roles must be updated annually by secretaries of state. Failure to keep current voter roles will result in a state’s electoral votes not being allowed to be counted.
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Re: Presidential Election (HOW)
[Re: IDOT]
#4103600
03/19/24 02:04 PM
03/19/24 02:04 PM
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 63,845 Luverne, AL
Skinny
GUVNER
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GUVNER
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 63,845
Luverne, AL
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Just let the IRS run the elections. In three or four years they will come back after the election and say you didn't vote enough.
Never Trust Government
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: Presidential Election (HOW)
[Re: CeeHawk37]
#4103664
03/19/24 04:43 PM
03/19/24 04:43 PM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 25,778 Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 25,778
Fayetteville TN Via Selma
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It would probably take a convention of states to make this an amendment to the constitution to get any of this accomplished but if it were possible here’s what I’d like to see.
Election Day is a national holiday.
End winner take all states in the electoral college. Delegates are awarded by the winner of each congressional district. Award the final two delegates per state to the overall winner in that state. This would ensure that every congressional district gets their say in the final tally. California, New York, and Illinois would no longer be solidly blue. Same goes for Bama, MS, SC, or the other solid red states. But every vote would count, and the major metro areas wouldn’t be able to outweigh the rural area’s vote.
Allow only 1 week prior to Election Day for absentee or early voting.
State issued photo ID required for all voting Paper receipts with individual serial numbers for the ballot cast. All ballots go into a publicly searchable database and each voter can search their serial number to verify their vote was counted correctly.
Late votes and incorrectly filled out ballots are all trashed with no ballot curing allowed.
No same day registration.
Voter roles must be updated annually by secretaries of state. Failure to keep current voter roles will result in a state’s electoral votes not being allowed to be counted. I like this! Never happen, of course, but I like it.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Presidential Election (HOW)
[Re: abolt300]
#4103787
03/19/24 08:14 PM
03/19/24 08:14 PM
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Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 8,447 Chelsea
Lockjaw
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Posts: 8,447
Chelsea
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Are you a legal citizen, Have an ID and can can prove both. Voting in person on the first Tuesday in November and on paper. Pretty simple Votes are then hand counted by a group of 5 people (3 dems and 2 repubs) a total is achieved. Votes are then re-hand counted by a different group of people (3 repubs and 2 dems) and total achieved. It the totals between the two groups match without exception, then the totals are certified and sent to a central collection point where the above process is repeated, until the state has a winner. How you gonna stop a Dem from changing to a Republican? They do it all the time in primaries.
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Re: Presidential Election (HOW)
[Re: Lockjaw]
#4103887
03/20/24 04:42 AM
03/20/24 04:42 AM
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Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 10,410 northport
deadeye48
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Booner
Joined: Dec 2016
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Are you a legal citizen, Have an ID and can can prove both. Voting in person on the first Tuesday in November and on paper. Pretty simple Votes are then hand counted by a group of 5 people (3 dems and 2 repubs) a total is achieved. Votes are then re-hand counted by a different group of people (3 repubs and 2 dems) and total achieved. It the totals between the two groups match without exception, then the totals are certified and sent to a central collection point where the above process is repeated, until the state has a winner. How you gonna stop a Dem from changing to a Republican? They do it all the time in primaries. Make it so if you vote one way in the primary you have to vote the same way in the General
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: Presidential Election (HOW)
[Re: DryFire]
#4103978
03/20/24 08:16 AM
03/20/24 08:16 AM
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 63,845 Luverne, AL
Skinny
GUVNER
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GUVNER
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 63,845
Luverne, AL
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I wish Alabama had early no excuse voting. There is zero reason to limit the vote to one day in November.
When I voted in the last election, the poll worker used my DL to confirm I was a registered voter.
I have zero problem having my vote scanned. Its done in one day to prevent people from claiming victory before the voting is complete. That is an old trick where one side comes out says "I won" which makes his opposition stop coming to the polls.
Never Trust Government
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: Presidential Election (HOW)
[Re: deadeye48]
#4104053
03/20/24 10:27 AM
03/20/24 10:27 AM
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Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 34,464 Boxes Cove
2Dogs
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 34,464
Boxes Cove
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Are you a legal citizen, Have an ID and can can prove both. Voting in person on the first Tuesday in November and on paper. Pretty simple Votes are then hand counted by a group of 5 people (3 dems and 2 repubs) a total is achieved. Votes are then re-hand counted by a different group of people (3 repubs and 2 dems) and total achieved. It the totals between the two groups match without exception, then the totals are certified and sent to a central collection point where the above process is repeated, until the state has a winner. How you gonna stop a Dem from changing to a Republican? They do it all the time in primaries. Make it so if you vote one way in the primary you have to vote the same way in the General The only way is to pass a law in Alabama or any other state with open primaries, where you must declare a party when you register to vote . And you can only vote in that party's primary . Many states are like that. They even have primary elections on different days. If you are a registered Dem and go to the Repub primary you can not vote , you won't even be on the list. But in the fall , general you can vote either way. Something I here all the time , "I'm a registered Democrat , or "I'm a registered Republican" . Not in Alabama , you just register to vote.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Presidential Election (HOW)
[Re: Skinny]
#4104055
03/20/24 10:29 AM
03/20/24 10:29 AM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 10,518
abolt300
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I wish Alabama had early no excuse voting. There is zero reason to limit the vote to one day in November.
When I voted in the last election, the poll worker used my DL to confirm I was a registered voter.
I have zero problem having my vote scanned. Its done in one day to prevent people from claiming victory before the voting is complete. That is an old trick where one side comes out says "I won" which makes his opposition stop coming to the polls. ^^^^^ding ding ding, we have a winner. Same thing with MSM calling states early on the national level, while the polls in those states still have a couple hours before closing. That heavily favors democrats because most republicans work for a living and a lot them vote after work. If they hear their candidate has already lost, they think, what's the point. Meanwhile, most democrat states do not require any form of voter ID, democrats are provided with organized rides to the polls (that is something of value which makes it illegal), once they get there they get a hotdog or somehow get fed (something else of value, also illegal), all this was shown on national television in 2020, yet nobody got in trouble over it. Now how does that happen. Same day voting, have to show picture ID and prove citizenship prior to obtaining ballot to vote, mail in ballots have to be formally requested (no automatic, mass mailing), hard deadline for mail in ballots, if mail in ballot is not in full compliance it gets tossed out and not counted, no ballot harvesting, and manual recount certification of automated count totals prior to submission to the state level is the only way to insure that it is fair.
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Re: Presidential Election (HOW)
[Re: Skinny]
#4104146
03/20/24 01:56 PM
03/20/24 01:56 PM
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Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,205 Meridianville
DryFire
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I wish Alabama had early no excuse voting. There is zero reason to limit the vote to one day in November.
When I voted in the last election, the poll worker used my DL to confirm I was a registered voter.
I have zero problem having my vote scanned. Its done in one day to prevent people from claiming victory before the voting is complete. That is an old trick where one side comes out says "I won" which makes his opposition stop coming to the polls. Early votes are not counted until the polls close on election day. Candidates may claim early victory based on exit polls, not counted votes.
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Re: Presidential Election (HOW)
[Re: Lockjaw]
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03/20/24 05:01 PM
03/20/24 05:01 PM
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Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 34,464 Boxes Cove
2Dogs
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Posts: 34,464
Boxes Cove
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A new hire for the RNC is supposed to work on ballot harvesting for R's.
Here is the real issue. The Republican's really don't want to win bad enough to close the loop holes. They don't want to play the democrat game on their level. They don't want to stand up and deal with the media running them down.
They are a bunch of coward losers who stick it to us time and time again. And we dutifully go and cast votes for them, because after all they are better than a democrat..... which makes me want to puke.
One of the things I learned in my first corporate job out of college was very profound. "Change the people, or change the people" if you want a different result.
We got the same people, and they aren't changing. I bet there will be democrat crossover votes for Trump in November. They buy gas and groceries too. Just wait , the Repubs get heavy into ballot harvesting and such the Dems will call foul. Repubs will get busted by the Feds, whether they're doing anything illegal or not.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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