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Re: season changes
[Re: gobbler]
#4101319
03/14/24 09:43 PM
03/14/24 09:43 PM
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Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 12,103
Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
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Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 12,103
Sylacauga, AL
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Thanks for posting! Just confirms what I learned in 8th grade Ag class in 1968 - legal spring gobbler hunting has no effect on the overall turkey population. Hard to believe that there was once a time when everyone knew this.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: season changes
[Re: gobbler]
#4101372
03/15/24 04:22 AM
03/15/24 04:22 AM
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Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 8,399
Atoler
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 8,399
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Re: season changes
[Re: gobbler]
#4101406
03/15/24 06:59 AM
03/15/24 06:59 AM
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Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 4,851
AL
Gobble4me757
12 point
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12 point
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 4,851
AL
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Screw em all. I emailed everyone of em saying if I made decisions based on theories in my line of work it would kill people…emailed everyone of em before they made the decision to push it back. They can pound sand for all I care and piss on chuck Sykes and crew. Fire em all
2017 Team Aldeer Turkey Contest Champion
2018 Team Aldeer Turkey Contest Champion
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Re: season changes
[Re: gobbler]
#4101416
03/15/24 07:29 AM
03/15/24 07:29 AM
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Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 10,596
Central, Al
Bustinbeards
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Booner
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Posts: 10,596
Central, Al
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It’s political plain and simple.
That’s Straight from the mouth of one of the biologists I spoke with.
It isn’t about biological facts, any decisions based on bad information generally produce bad outcomes.
It’s about compliance and politics.
If they wanted to benefit the population they would actually make decisions based upon facts and proven data not a flawed, unproven and ridiculous dominant gobbler theory.
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes
On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
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Re: season changes
[Re: gobbler]
#4101450
03/15/24 08:20 AM
03/15/24 08:20 AM
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Posts: 11,781
Huntsville
JUGHEAD
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Booner
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Huntsville
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Anyone with half a brain predicted what the results of the study were going to be. Now, we get to see what happens regarding TN’s changes in season framework. 😡😡😡
"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
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Re: season changes
[Re: Semo]
#4101528
03/15/24 10:20 AM
03/15/24 10:20 AM
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Posts: 12,103
Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
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Be careful guys. I know it is what you want to hear (and I believe it is probably true), but all you've seen is an abstract. That's just the TN study. The MS study had already reached the same conclusion. I have heard that Chamberlain's own study in GA also had the same results, though it doesn't seem to be publicized. The whole idea defies common sense and everything that has been known about wild turkeys for centuries. A single gobbler can breed a whole bunch of hens. In fact, he can breed a whole bunch of hens in a single day. If turkey populations are going down in an area, it's extremely unlikely that the cause is the lack of a gobbler to breed the hens.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: season changes
[Re: gobbler]
#4101536
03/15/24 10:25 AM
03/15/24 10:25 AM
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Posts: 7,529
Boaz,AL
CarbonClimber1
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 7,529
Boaz,AL
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I want my all day huntn back…when we gonna get that back…
"I dont quit.. And ill fight alone if i have to"
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Re: season changes
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
#4101540
03/15/24 10:29 AM
03/15/24 10:29 AM
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Posts: 5,209
Georgia and Missouri
Semo
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12 point
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Posts: 5,209
Georgia and Missouri
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Be careful guys. I know it is what you want to hear (and I believe it is probably true), but all you've seen is an abstract. That's just the TN study. The MS study had already reached the same conclusion. I have heard that Chamberlain's own study in GA also had the same results, though it doesn't seem to be publicized. The whole idea defies common sense and everything that has been known about wild turkeys for centuries. A single gobbler can breed a whole bunch of hens. In fact, he can breed a whole bunch of hens in a single day. If turkey populations are going down in an area, it's extremely unlikely that the cause is the lack of a gobbler to breed the hens. Oh, I agree with you. I just am cautioning because some of the studies that get published have terrible methods. Case in point was chamberlain's own that looked at gobbling in south carolina (if I recall correctly). I think that study kicked off this whole mess and his study design and sample size was lacking IMO.
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Re: season changes
[Re: CarbonClimber1]
#4101574
03/15/24 11:10 AM
03/15/24 11:10 AM
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Posts: 13,889
Mobile, AL
SouthBamaSlayer
Gary's Fluffer
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Gary's Fluffer
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Posts: 13,889
Mobile, AL
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I want my all day huntn back…when we gonna get that back… Huh? You talking bout on public land or something?
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Re: season changes
[Re: gobbler]
#4101599
03/15/24 11:32 AM
03/15/24 11:32 AM
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Posts: 1,964
Northport
Thisldu
8 point
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8 point
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,964
Northport
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Habitat loss, habitat loss, habitat loss. Go back to the real problem.
"The future's uncertain and the end is always near"
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Re: season changes
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
#4101610
03/15/24 11:45 AM
03/15/24 11:45 AM
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Posts: 10,596
Central, Al
Bustinbeards
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Booner
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 10,596
Central, Al
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I want my all day huntn back…when we gonna get that back… Huh? You talking bout on public land or something? Yes most if now all WMA hunting has moved till noon only.
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes
On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
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Re: season changes
[Re: Dixiepatriot]
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03/15/24 11:50 AM
03/15/24 11:50 AM
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Posts: 51,956
Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Mildly Quirky
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 51,956
Round ‘bout there
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This used to be the happiest day of the year. Back when hunting was fun, before December 2012.
Last edited by Clem; 03/15/24 11:51 AM.
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Re: season changes
[Re: Thisldu]
#4101704
03/15/24 01:49 PM
03/15/24 01:49 PM
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Posts: 4,148
Ramer
ronfromramer
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10 point
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Posts: 4,148
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Habitat loss, habitat loss, habitat loss. Go back to the real problem. This part of south Montgomery county has always had a substantial amount of turkeys. Overall, the population has probably declined, but only because the habitat has changed. Areas of good turkey habitat have as many or more turkeys than there's been in the last 35 or so years I've been hunting the area. It is all about the habitat and throw in predator effect
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