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Darters in north alabama, minnows? #4098503
03/09/24 01:52 PM
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Who knows about the rivers and creeks in north alabama where darters can be found? I would very much like any info available on this. Some intelligent discussion would be great as well.

Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: jwalker77] #4098507
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What do you need to know? There’s dozens of darters in AL. Some only found in specific water ways.

Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: jwalker77] #4098510
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Are you wanting to catch some for bait? If so, plenty of them can be found along the concrete walls at Guntersville Dam. They can be picked up pretty easily with a dip net. As far as intelligent conversation goes, that's about the limit of what I know about them. đŸ˜•

Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: jwalker77] #4098573
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Endangered mostly. Locust fork river and creeks running into it

Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: jwalker77] #4098581
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Damnit. I know a thing or three about how the Indians used and ate darters and small minnows. If you like sardines, tell me this don't sound good. I might try it with Sardines one day, but I have been saying that for 20 years.

They used to be so plentiful that Indians could scoop them right out of the water in a cup, press them between big green leaves just enough to push the guts out of them, then wash the mess off. After that they would give the minnows a quick dusting of cornmeal, then flash frying them in a basting of chestnut oil and eat them like a taco or burrito in a hand ground corn tortilla.


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Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: jwalker77] #4098582
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They also used them to catch rattlesnakes and gopher tortoises by putting a small handful of them in front of a gopher hole. The snakes or the gopher would come out to see what the smell is.


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Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: jwalker77] #4098583
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Depending on how interested you are in the subject, you may consider finding a used copy of this book. It details every single species of fish in Alabama along with a map of where they have been found. Color photos, write up, records, etc. It’s out of print now. It’s a great coffee table book.


Anyway, it has a whole section on the darters.


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Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: jwalker77] #4098596
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Pretty sure that’s what halted the Hydroelectric dam at Memphis.


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Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: donia] #4098604
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Originally Posted by donia
Pretty sure that’s what halted the Hydroelectric dam at Memphis.


I think they own large parts of California. I actually had to read the laws and actions that are because of the Darters in California, it would blow your mind at the amount of bureaucracy is involved with those little bastards.


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Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: jwalker77] #4098605
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Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: Skinny] #4098609
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Originally Posted by donia
Pretty sure that’s what halted the Hydroelectric dam at Memphis.


I think they own large parts of California. I actually had to read the laws and actions that are because of the Darters in California, it would blow your mind at the amount of bureaucracy is involved with those little bastards.

Thats kinda what were hoping for

Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: jwalker77] #4098618
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The snail darter held up construction of the tva tellico dam for two years . But since 2022 they been taken off endangered species list .when we log a tract in middle tn we get a map showing the possible endangered or threatened species in the creeks or water ways . It’s always been the snail darter at top of list . Better stay out them creeks with logging equipment. Paper company IP had an PR person on site one time in westpoint tn where they released some them darters . On front page of local paper back in the 90s.


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Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: Skinny] #4098619
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Damnit. I know a thing or three about how the Indians used and ate darters and small minnows. If you like sardines, tell me this don't sound good. I might try it with Sardines one day, but I have been saying that for 20 years.

They used to be so plentiful that Indians could scoop them right out of the water in a cup, press them between big green leaves just enough to push the guts out of them, then wash the mess off. After that they would give the minnows a quick dusting of cornmeal, then flash frying them in a basting of chestnut oil and eat them like a taco or burrito in a hand ground corn tortilla.

You must've had your own Black Tea ceremony to get that information.


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Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: jawbone] #4098624
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Originally Posted by jawbone
Originally Posted by Skinny
Damnit. I know a thing or three about how the Indians used and ate darters and small minnows. If you like sardines, tell me this don't sound good. I might try it with Sardines one day, but I have been saying that for 20 years.

They used to be so plentiful that Indians could scoop them right out of the water in a cup, press them between big green leaves just enough to push the guts out of them, then wash the mess off. After that they would give the minnows a quick dusting of cornmeal, then flash frying them in a basting of chestnut oil and eat them like a taco or burrito in a hand ground corn tortilla.

You must've had your own Black Tea ceremony to get that information.


No. It started with a turd. A very well described turd that was 1500 years old. It was found in a cave and that dude ate a minnow burrito.


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Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: Skinny] #4098643
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Originally Posted by jawbone
Originally Posted by Skinny
Damnit. I know a thing or three about how the Indians used and ate darters and small minnows. If you like sardines, tell me this don't sound good. I might try it with Sardines one day, but I have been saying that for 20 years.

They used to be so plentiful that Indians could scoop them right out of the water in a cup, press them between big green leaves just enough to push the guts out of them, then wash the mess off. After that they would give the minnows a quick dusting of cornmeal, then flash frying them in a basting of chestnut oil and eat them like a taco or burrito in a hand ground corn tortilla.

You must've had your own Black Tea ceremony to get that information.


No. It started with a turd. A very well described turd that was 1500 years old. It was found in a cave and that dude ate a minnow burrito.


That's wild lol, anywhere i can read about that? Do yall find the huge penny Winkle shells there like we do here

Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: Skinny] #4098650
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Originally Posted by jawbone
Originally Posted by Skinny
Damnit. I know a thing or three about how the Indians used and ate darters and small minnows. If you like sardines, tell me this don't sound good. I might try it with Sardines one day, but I have been saying that for 20 years.

They used to be so plentiful that Indians could scoop them right out of the water in a cup, press them between big green leaves just enough to push the guts out of them, then wash the mess off. After that they would give the minnows a quick dusting of cornmeal, then flash frying them in a basting of chestnut oil and eat them like a taco or burrito in a hand ground corn tortilla.

You must've had your own Black Tea ceremony to get that information.


No. It started with a turd. A very well described turd that was 1500 years old. It was found in a cave and that dude ate a minnow burrito.

Did it have defined rest notches?

Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: YellaLineHunter] #4098676
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Originally Posted by YellaLineHunter
Originally Posted by Skinny
Originally Posted by jawbone
Originally Posted by Skinny
Damnit. I know a thing or three about how the Indians used and ate darters and small minnows. If you like sardines, tell me this don't sound good. I might try it with Sardines one day, but I have been saying that for 20 years.

They used to be so plentiful that Indians could scoop them right out of the water in a cup, press them between big green leaves just enough to push the guts out of them, then wash the mess off. After that they would give the minnows a quick dusting of cornmeal, then flash frying them in a basting of chestnut oil and eat them like a taco or burrito in a hand ground corn tortilla.

You must've had your own Black Tea ceremony to get that information.


No. It started with a turd. A very well described turd that was 1500 years old. It was found in a cave and that dude ate a minnow burrito.

Did it have defined rest notches?


It had the peanut

Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: jwalker77] #4098681
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It was pretty firm. Slicing it was challenging, it had some tough chunks. Didn't smell like nothin. Dude also had muscadine seeds. They make the slicing saw bump.


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Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: jwalker77] #4098729
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Re: Darters in north alabama, minnows? [Re: jwalker77] #4098746
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Holy crap. A educational topic.


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