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Re: Jake Paul or .Ike Tyson? [Re: BCLC] #4097170
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Originally Posted by BCLC
Originally Posted by GomerPyle
Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Damn Tyson is an old man, why doesnt Paul fight a boxer his own age and skill instead of washed up has beens?

JP only fights past-their-prime fighters that he knows he has a good shot against. There's also been speculation that those fighters get paid to "throw" the fight or at least to keep it close


To be fair, Jake Paul isn’t doing anything different than every other fighter in the history of the fight game. He’s only had 10 or so fights as a professional. Was Floyd Mayweather the best boxer of all time OR was he just the best at cherry picking his opponents? Nearly all of Floyd’s “marquis” victories came against opponents past their prime. Maybe not 30yrs past like Iron Mike but still. Even Tyson padded his early stats….

“Tyson made his professional debut as an 18-year-old on March 6, 1985, in Albany, New York. He defeated Hector Mercedes via first-round TKO. He had 15 bouts in his first year as a professional. Fighting frequently, Tyson won 26 of his first 28 fights by KO or TKO; 16 of those came in the first round. The quality of his opponents gradually increased to journeyman fighters and borderline contenders, like James Tillis, David Jaco, Jesse Ferguson, Mitch Green, and Marvis Frazier. His win streak attracted media attention and Tyson was billed as the next great heavyweight champion.”


True. And because he promotes these fights he wins even if he loses. That's his deal. He could probably fight professionally and would be average / below average, but why would he do that ? He can pick who he wants to fight AND make all the money.

Re: Jake Paul or .Ike Tyson? [Re: coldtrail] #4097174
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Tyson made a bunch of money getting inside and knocking out guys that were bigger, taller and had big reach advantages. Is he too old to take the punishment to get close? Maybe. But it he can get inside, I dont think that Jake has the chin to deal with Mike up close. He might be 57 but I still wouldnt want him hitting me with an upper cut. Tyson probably needs the money and if the money is big enough, it wouldnt surprise me for Tyson would take the cash and take a dive. I mean, after all, the man does have a freaking tattoo across his face. Doesnt speak well for his life choices.

Re: Jake Paul or .Ike Tyson? [Re: coldtrail] #4097177
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He's way too old. But Boxing as a sport has been dead for so long I'll take what I can get out of a highly publicized fight.

This use to be HUGE. Bring it back...where's Don?


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Re: Jake Paul or .Ike Tyson? [Re: coldtrail] #4097178
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Re: Jake Paul or .Ike Tyson? [Re: BPI] #4097187
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Originally Posted by BPI
Originally Posted by BCLC
Originally Posted by GomerPyle
Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Damn Tyson is an old man, why doesnt Paul fight a boxer his own age and skill instead of washed up has beens?

JP only fights past-their-prime fighters that he knows he has a good shot against. There's also been speculation that those fighters get paid to "throw" the fight or at least to keep it close


To be fair, Jake Paul isn’t doing anything different than every other fighter in the history of the fight game. He’s only had 10 or so fights as a professional. Was Floyd Mayweather the best boxer of all time OR was he just the best at cherry picking his opponents? Nearly all of Floyd’s “marquis” victories came against opponents past their prime. Maybe not 30yrs past like Iron Mike but still. Even Tyson padded his early stats….

“Tyson made his professional debut as an 18-year-old on March 6, 1985, in Albany, New York. He defeated Hector Mercedes via first-round TKO. He had 15 bouts in his first year as a professional. Fighting frequently, Tyson won 26 of his first 28 fights by KO or TKO; 16 of those came in the first round. The quality of his opponents gradually increased to journeyman fighters and borderline contenders, like James Tillis, David Jaco, Jesse Ferguson, Mitch Green, and Marvis Frazier. His win streak attracted media attention and Tyson was billed as the next great heavyweight champion.”


True. And because he promotes these fights he wins even if he loses. That's his deal. He could probably fight professionally and would be average / below average, but why would he do that ? He can pick who he wants to fight AND make all the money.


What you highlighted was referring to Tyson...not Jake Paul.

Tyson was a good fighter, but I think his timing was very good as well. He entered boxing at a time when all the great boxers from the 70's were aging out, and before the heavyweight division transformed into what it is today....a division for guys that are A LOT bigger then Tyson ever was. Who was the best fighter Tyson ever faced before Holyfield? Spinks? LOL Larry Holmes...who was aged out? The heavyweight division was full of bums while Tyson was in his prime. Tyson could knock most anyone out, but he could be bullied by a bigger fighter, as proven by Buster Douglas. Fear was Tyson's biggest weapon. He had most of the bums he fought beaten before he even stepped into the ring. Spinks couldn't wait to lay down. Holyfield bullied him in both fights and he wasn't even that big. Big heavyweights that came along soon after, like Riddick Bowe and Lennox Lewis (who did pummel Tyson later, but Tyson was old) would have probably been more then Tyson could handle.

Like said above, Roy Jones Jr is the best I've ever seen, but he stepped too far above his weight class. Once he got to light heavy, he wasn't nearly as good because he couldn't hold up to the pounding of the bigger fighters. Middleweight or super middleweight? Untouchable.


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Re: Jake Paul or .Ike Tyson? [Re: coldtrail] #4097196
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Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Originally Posted by BPI
Originally Posted by BCLC
Originally Posted by GomerPyle

JP only fights past-their-prime fighters that he knows he has a good shot against. There's also been speculation that those fighters get paid to "throw" the fight or at least to keep it close


To be fair, Jake Paul isn’t doing anything different than every other fighter in the history of the fight game. He’s only had 10 or so fights as a professional. Was Floyd Mayweather the best boxer of all time OR was he just the best at cherry picking his opponents? Nearly all of Floyd’s “marquis” victories came against opponents past their prime. Maybe not 30yrs past like Iron Mike but still. Even Tyson padded his early stats….

“Tyson made his professional debut as an 18-year-old on March 6, 1985, in Albany, New York. He defeated Hector Mercedes via first-round TKO. He had 15 bouts in his first year as a professional. Fighting frequently, Tyson won 26 of his first 28 fights by KO or TKO; 16 of those came in the first round. The quality of his opponents gradually increased to journeyman fighters and borderline contenders, like James Tillis, David Jaco, Jesse Ferguson, Mitch Green, and Marvis Frazier. His win streak attracted media attention and Tyson was billed as the next great heavyweight champion.”


True. And because he promotes these fights he wins even if he loses. That's his deal. He could probably fight professionally and would be average / below average, but why would he do that ? He can pick who he wants to fight AND make all the money.


What you highlighted was referring to Tyson...not Jake Paul.

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No chit Sherlock.


Not sure if you misread the post or if you’re just being hardheaded. Read the sentence before the quote…it goes a lot like this “Even Tyson padded his early stats…..”


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Re: Jake Paul or .Ike Tyson? [Re: BCLC] #4097198
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Originally Posted by BCLC


No chit Sherlock.


Not sure if you misread the post or if you’re just being hardheaded. Read the sentence before the quote…it goes a lot like this “Even Tyson padded his early stats…..”


Delete the first sentence then.

Tyson padded ALL of his stats...which was MY point that you obviously missed.

What is Tyson's biggest win?


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Re: Jake Paul or .Ike Tyson? [Re: coldtrail] #4097216
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Can any of y’all imagine getting punched in the gut by Mike and then continuing to fight? He is a beast. I don’t think JP has it in him. I know nothing about boxing but just sheer strength and experience, I think Mike has it.

Re: Jake Paul or .Ike Tyson? [Re: coldtrail] #4097221
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Mike gonna pummel him. Two rounds max.

Re: Jake Paul or .Ike Tyson? [Re: Mbrock] #4097225
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Mike gonna pummel him. Two rounds max.

I hope so. Cant wait to see it

Re: Jake Paul or .Ike Tyson? [Re: coldtrail] #4097226
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The last couple fights of Mike Tyson's actual career were sad if you go back and watch them......and that's been quite awhile ago.....The only way he wins is if the other guy just really sucks


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Re: Jake Paul or .Ike Tyson? [Re: coldtrail] #4097230
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When does this fight take place?

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Tyson ever hits him the fight will be over


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Re: Jake Paul or .Ike Tyson? [Re: bward85] #4097235
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Originally Posted by bward85
When does this fight take place?



July. 20th, I believe.


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Re: Jake Paul or .Ike Tyson? [Re: coldtrail] #4097250
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Tyson with older age has a little more wisdom than the younger days. It may be rigged but straight up Tyson takes it and probably easily.

Re: Jake Paul or .Ike Tyson? [Re: kkfish] #4097254
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Originally Posted by Sandmtnslayer
Tyson ever hits him the fight will be over


Originally Posted by kkfish
Tyson with older age has a little more wisdom than the younger days. It may be rigged but straight up Tyson takes it and probably easily.


If Tyson is in shape and IF they allow it - he'll knock Jake Paul out.


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Re: Jake Paul or .Ike Tyson? [Re: coldtrail] #4097259
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Mike is going to get worked. Jake wouldn’t last 25 seconds with against Tyson in his prime but Mike is done as a boxer and if they are allowed to truly fight, Jake will kill him.


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Well, pencil me in as one that will have to watch this crap on PPV.

Re: Jake Paul or .Ike Tyson? [Re: coldtrail] #4097265
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I am gonna watch, I hope Tyson knocks him out, and watching Tyson train and hit the heavy bag, I sure wouldn’t want that kinda power hitting me.


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Re: Jake Paul or .Ike Tyson? [Re: coldtrail] #4097266
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Boxing ain't been chit in a long time.

At one time it was a noble pugilistic contest between two men who were both well trained, physically fit and skilled in their craft. Now it's pretty much a circus sideshow.

I credit a lot of that decay in the sport to one man.

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