I'm still trying to figure why you think the deer population is down. I manage 6000 acres, run pay hunts, and do taxidermy. I see no signs of a depleted Herd!!

Intelligence seems to be lacking in some of these suggestions. Non-residents get one buck? Arkansas will make it so that AL residents can kill one duck per season, if they can draw a license. AL residents will have to pay $10K for a texas big game license and will only be allowed to shoot does. LA will make it so that AL residents are limited to 1 speckled trout or 1 redfish per season and no oysters or shrimp will be sold to Alabama, MS will limit AL casino winnings to a maximum of $100 per weekend, and only one visit every 5 yrs. FL will limit AL residents to one fish of any kind, that meets regulations, per license per year, and AL residents will no longer be welcome at any FL beaches or Disney. No south GA quail hunts or Braves games if you possess and AL drivers license. It's not a war that AL wants to start, can win, or wants to be in. There's no upside to it. Just negatives. Here's a suggestion, how about Alabama uses a little common sense and polices their own outlaws and rule breakers, while maybe the grown men and residents in AL exercise just the tiniest little bit of trigger restraint on the basket racks, and actually enforce the laws that they already have on the books and then see where things stand.

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Drop the 🎤 ABolt.

You don’t see it now but trust me you will…..I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that the guys hunting 6,000 acres will be the last ones the notice a change…… Five years from now just don’t act like nobody could see it coming when there’s a two buck limit being pushed to make up for all of it…..…..I’m sure many will be blindly cheering it on

I've been doing this way before corn or any of your other dillusional ideas came around. It's as strong on numbers as ever just lacking in genetics in most places.

Some interesting reading.......

https://forums.bowhunting.com/threads/il-deer-herd-still-not-rebounding.99093/

Based of vehicle accidents. Then it's the vehicle causing the decrease then? Car had corn in the trunk?

Now when I bring up comparisons to other states, you tell me Alabama is a different herd with different dynamics. But now all of a sudden it’s applicable?

You’re going to have to do better then that!! You find one thread on a forum that matches your thoughts. From someone who hunted the Midwest when the population was booming, it was the change in the limits that lowered the numbers of deer in Missouri. They went from being able to kill 1 buck and or 2 does plus a couple bonus antlerless tags a year to unlimited antlerless tags for residents and nonresident. We saw the miles and miles of trailer loads and pick up truck loads of deer waiting to be check and dropped off at the processor by Missouri residents. At that time. It many non residents hunted the area we were in. We walked out back of the processors and saw a pile of deer like I had never seen before. It had to be 40’ round and 10’ high. It was the damnest thing I’d ever seen. The local landowners and farmers hated them. The deer/auto collisions were outrageous and the State of Missouri accomplished what they wanted with a little help from a bad case of EHD which took a big toll on the buck population in NE Missouri and NW Illinois. It took years for the buck population to rebound to decent numbers. I still have friends that still make that trip every year and they are still killing very nice bucks every year, but the population is not where it was back then but it’s still in great shape. Also have some friends that hunt across the river in Pike Co. Illinois and they still killfine bucks while bow hunting every November. Apparently the numbers are up there because the farmers want them to fill every doe tag they can. Don’t go by what you read in some forum, as most of us don’t, get real time facts from the hunters who hunt the area in question.

I’ve always thought auto collision rates would be a good way of monitoring herd number trends……I didn’t realize some states actually used such until reading that…..I wonder why we don’t here?

I guess you and them got alot in common.

Every drunk who hits a mailbox at midnight turns it in as hitting a deer. Way to many people claim hitting a deer who didn't for that to be accurate. Also why insurance companies use it to say there are too many deer!

The locals up there told us that was one of the biggest reasons for trying to lower the population. The big auto insurance groups were raising cane because of all the damages they were having to cover with deer/vehicle collisions. I could believe it with the amount of dead deer we saw on 61 north of St. Louis those first few years I started going up there. At that time I didn’t know that many deer existed in this country. I will tell you I did my part to lower the buck population. I hunted there 5 years and put a buck on the wall 5 out of the 6 years. The 6th buck surprised in a pouring rain and I kinda jumped the gun. It was still a nice 8pt but not what we really wanted to shoot.

Oddly enough, I just got done reading the comments on a very long thread on FB with a lot of the same arguments and solutions, but it was about Osceola turkeys in FL.

I’m good with that. Since we’ve quadrupled our in state license with your scenario then we should do the same for out of state. So $1600 is where we should be for an out of state. I believe it’s fair. Only scenario I see where the out of state should be less is if you own your own property in the state.

I’m shocked anybody in any other state with the exception of Florida would pay to come hunt in Alabama. The best hunting in the entire state doesn’t hold a candle to Kentucky, Missouri, Ohio, Kansas, etc

I think if you own the property it shouldn’t be that much. You actually pay taxes in the state. Most out of state guys don’t. They reap the benefits of our long season and do nothing other than pay a lease price

This is STUPID. Folks like me live out of state but were born in Bama, own more land in Bama than probably most of y’all’s whole family combined, and put much dollars into the Alabama economy.

Cap my Azz !

if you own the property you should not have to pay shucks to the state to hunt on it.