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Re: Tags……Yea or nay??
[Re: CNC]
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02/29/24 05:24 PM
02/29/24 05:24 PM
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deadeye48
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Why ask this question ?
Do you see this regime leading us in a direction that will end in us buying tags ?
I remember getting raked over the coals on here for mentioning this
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself
The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: Tags……Yea or nay??
[Re: RandanAL]
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02/29/24 05:38 PM
02/29/24 05:38 PM
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catdoctor
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wilcox county
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No
You gentlemen that are throwing out ideas of 5,000 dollar fines need to think of what will happen if you run up on a poacher with fines so high. People will kill you over 100 dollars what about 5000? Poaching is already a $1,000 fine. Didn't realize Alabama writes its code based on criminal's feelings.  I was throwing out the idea of the poacher deciding not to pay the large fine by eliminating the chance of being turned in to law enforcement. Just something to think about.
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Re: Tags……Yea or nay??
[Re: marshmud991]
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02/29/24 05:55 PM
02/29/24 05:55 PM
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abolt300
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Do you think physical tags will stop outlaws from being outlaws?
Do you think the State will hire more wardens to enforce it?
Do you think the current Game Wardens will stop giving people tickets for silly stuff long enough to take it seriously? Every time they stop and talk to someone now they have to write them a ticket for something. I have a buddy who caught a hunting at night charge last season for walking back to his truck after dark and using a flashlight. Another got a ticket for not having on hunter orange and he was in his vehicle when he was stopped.
I think tags along with stiff enough penalties for not using them will make the majority of hunters voluntarily comply due to the risk involved in not doing so…….The key would be to make the penalty harsh enough that it isnt worth folks taking the risk of not complying. Does anyone go out west and dick around with not reporting or tagging? Nobody here cares right now because there’s no teeth behind the rule and its too easy to cheat the system. We might as well just get rid of the 3 buck limit because the only people its regulating are the really, really honest……Again, if you want the resource to be better managed then where are you going to make those changes if you don’t start with enforcing bag limits? We have to game check the deer and get a confirmation number before you move the animal now!! I don’t see where a physical tag is going to change anything. If you dont have the little slip you fill out or your confirmation number, you’re in violation. Pretty simple. Until the ones not following the law are rules start feeling the pain financially, nothing will change. I’ve met the GW in our area a few times because we needed help with road hunters and night hunters. The first time it took him 3 days to contact me. Other 2 times he was there within a couple hours. He has way to much area to cover and people to deal with for just one person. No way he could could stop and check every vehicle that’s looks like hunters may be driving and check for tagging compliance. It’s totally impossible!! You would have to have multi unit task forces throughout the whole state to deal with it the way it should be. I don’t see it happening. They way I understand it, actually you dont. You have 48 hrs to game check your deer. If you do not game check it in the field using the app or calling it in, you simply fill out the paper form and have that in your possession and from there you have 48 hrs to actually call the state or use the app to get the confirmation number. And you're 100% correct. With the current staffing, there is no way to even remotely force compliance or effectively enforce the regs currently on the books.
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Re: Tags……Yea or nay??
[Re: CNC]
#4093162
02/29/24 05:59 PM
02/29/24 05:59 PM
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Posts: 4,069
White Plains Alabama
cgardner
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White Plains Alabama
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I’d be ok with it along with taking buck limit down to 2 and limit doe harvest. GA had good model and it’s paying off with a lot of giant deer every year.
Last edited by cgardner; 02/29/24 05:59 PM.
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Re: Tags……Yea or nay??
[Re: abolt300]
#4093170
02/29/24 06:05 PM
02/29/24 06:05 PM
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Posts: 9,051
USA
marshmud991
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Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,051
USA
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Do you think physical tags will stop outlaws from being outlaws?
Do you think the State will hire more wardens to enforce it?
Do you think the current Game Wardens will stop giving people tickets for silly stuff long enough to take it seriously? Every time they stop and talk to someone now they have to write them a ticket for something. I have a buddy who caught a hunting at night charge last season for walking back to his truck after dark and using a flashlight. Another got a ticket for not having on hunter orange and he was in his vehicle when he was stopped.
I think tags along with stiff enough penalties for not using them will make the majority of hunters voluntarily comply due to the risk involved in not doing so…….The key would be to make the penalty harsh enough that it isnt worth folks taking the risk of not complying. Does anyone go out west and dick around with not reporting or tagging? Nobody here cares right now because there’s no teeth behind the rule and its too easy to cheat the system. We might as well just get rid of the 3 buck limit because the only people its regulating are the really, really honest……Again, if you want the resource to be better managed then where are you going to make those changes if you don’t start with enforcing bag limits? We have to game check the deer and get a confirmation number before you move the animal now!! I don’t see where a physical tag is going to change anything. If you dont have the little slip you fill out or your confirmation number, you’re in violation. Pretty simple. Until the ones not following the law are rules start feeling the pain financially, nothing will change. I’ve met the GW in our area a few times because we needed help with road hunters and night hunters. The first time it took him 3 days to contact me. Other 2 times he was there within a couple hours. He has way to much area to cover and people to deal with for just one person. No way he could could stop and check every vehicle that’s looks like hunters may be driving and check for tagging compliance. It’s totally impossible!! You would have to have multi unit task forces throughout the whole state to deal with it the way it should be. I don’t see it happening. They way I understand it, actually you dont. You have 48 hrs to game check your deer. If you do not game check it in the field using the app or calling it in, you simply fill out the paper form and have that in your possession and from there you have 48 hrs to actually call the state or use the app to get the confirmation number. And you're 100% correct. With the current staffing, there is no way to even remotely force compliance or effectively enforce the regs currently on the books. I was supposed to put the part about the the little slip of paper in the first sentence and apparently overlooked it. More reason to proof read!!👍
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: Tags……Yea or nay??
[Re: CNC]
#4093171
02/29/24 06:05 PM
02/29/24 06:05 PM
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1bamashooter
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Nope keep that shat away from here game check is plenty some of yall just need to stop hunting here since nothing is ever right and go up north where it's better plus yall watch too many hunting shows on TV
Last edited by 1bamashooter; 02/29/24 06:10 PM.
Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
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Re: Tags……Yea or nay??
[Re: Clem]
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02/29/24 07:00 PM
02/29/24 07:00 PM
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North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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North AL
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^^^^ what the old dinosaur said
some of y'all are doing to keep phucking around until you get a bunch more chit you don't want or like, or you get what you want and still don't like it
X2
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Tags……Yea or nay??
[Re: CNC]
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02/29/24 07:10 PM
02/29/24 07:10 PM
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Awbarn, AL
CNC
OP
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Awbarn, AL
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I wonder what percentage of the actual buck harvest comes from folks night hunting, shooting over the limit or shooting two bucks in a day??......An extra 30% maybe??.......At what point is enforcement considered to be an issue? I mean, if there was an extra 50% being killed because of people breaking the rules would nobody see that as an issue? 
Last edited by CNC; 02/29/24 07:16 PM.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Tags……Yea or nay??
[Re: Shaneomac2]
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02/29/24 07:43 PM
02/29/24 07:43 PM
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Posts: 12,931
In a Van, down by the River
quailman
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Posts: 12,931
In a Van, down by the River
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i do what i want to so doesnt matter what is decideed! Yep! Go ahead and make more stupid rules.
Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.
My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
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Re: Tags……Yea or nay??
[Re: CNC]
#4093308
02/29/24 10:02 PM
02/29/24 10:02 PM
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Posts: 34,459
Boxes Cove
2Dogs
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Posts: 34,459
Boxes Cove
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No , they'll just screw that up also.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Tags……Yea or nay??
[Re: CNC]
#4093324
02/29/24 10:32 PM
02/29/24 10:32 PM
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Posts: 11,149
Central Alabama
Cuz-Pat
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Posts: 11,149
Central Alabama
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No tags.
Game Check is enough of a pain in the rectum.
Stay with 3 buck limit.
Personally, I'd be fine with a 3, 4, or 5 doe limit.
End Zone A season on January 31.
Enforce the rules and laws already in place.
Beyond that, leave things alone.
Cuz-Pat
Patton's European Mounts
Professional Quality Skull & Antler Taxidermy
Since 1998
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Re: Tags……Yea or nay??
[Re: Buckwheat]
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02/29/24 10:44 PM
02/29/24 10:44 PM
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Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
James
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I just wish it would be legal to hunt Rabbits at night...... Wait that's illegal? 🤣🤣
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom?
Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Tags……Yea or nay??
[Re: James]
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02/29/24 11:10 PM
02/29/24 11:10 PM
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Posts: 18,057
North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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North AL
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I just wish it would be legal to hunt Rabbits at night...... Wait that's illegal? 🤣🤣 Is there a statute of limitations in this infraction? Asking for a friend...
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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