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Re: Lease Price [Re: TCG5] #4092842
02/29/24 08:42 AM
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Sounds like it's happening to everyone. Manulife is charging for camps and structures i.e. storage and anything over 10 structures you have to pay for another camp site. That's going to be expensive for a large club.
Shooting house's aren't considered structures yet.

Re: Lease Price [Re: TCG5] #4092860
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I would pay $115 to have a food plot bigger than an acre. If I could have 10 food plots on my lease that were a couple acre's each, that would be awesome, but I don't have any flatish area's large enough to have one that size.

I'd love to have a powerline, if they kept it secure. The last club I was in had 2, and it was insane trying to keep people out.

Re: Lease Price [Re: TCG5] #4092881
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It’s like the government- they’ll keep squeezing you for more and more

Re: Lease Price [Re: TCG5] #4103806
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They know if you don't pay it someone else will. Hunting is big money. You either pay or don't hunt these days.


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Re: Lease Price [Re: TCG5] #4103964
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If any of you guys that refuse to pay the higher lease prices have any property y’all are turning loose in South Monroe co., let me know. We’re always looking to expand and willing to pay for the lease.


It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.


Re: Lease Price [Re: TCG5] #4103977
03/20/24 08:15 AM
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My lease went up .63 per acre. But it's only 120 acres.

Re: Lease Price [Re: marshmud991] #4104128
03/20/24 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by marshmud991
If any of you guys that refuse to pay the higher lease prices have any property y’all are turning loose in South Monroe co., let me know. We’re always looking to expand and willing to pay for the lease.


Yep....out of staters running the lease prices up.


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Re: Lease Price [Re: CNC] #4104153
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by marshmud991
If any of you guys that refuse to pay the higher lease prices have any property y’all are turning loose in South Monroe co., let me know. We’re always looking to expand and willing to pay for the lease.


Yep....out of staters running the lease prices up.



Sounds to me like he's just someone that is willing to pick up a lease, that is getting dropped, due to someone making the personal decision that the price has gotten too high for them to warrant releasing it themselves. What is too high for one, may not even be approaching high for someone else. State or residency doesnt matter one bit. Happens all the time and rest assured, if it wasnt Marsh, in that area, it'd be someone local there in Jackson or Monroeville, or someone from Baldwin, Mobile, Escambia, Conecuh, Butler, Lowndes, Wilcox or Montgomery counties, that would step up and be happy to lease it. Contrary to the false claim you continue to beat like a dead horse, there are plenty of Alabama residents more than willing to lease any decent property coming available and also a bunch, that will go out of their way to try to find a way to lease a really good piece of property right out from under you, even if you want to keep it.

Re: Lease Price [Re: TCG5] #4104219
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A bigger concern is a developer buying it. I don't see how they do it myself. We are adding on at work, and I know what my first months bill, which was all dirt moving, cost. How they can do that for 2 years and build a couple hundred houses and make $ is beyond me.

Re: Lease Price [Re: Lockjaw] #4104279
03/20/24 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
I would pay $115 to have a food plot bigger than an acre. If I could have 10 food plots on my lease that were a couple acre's each, that would be awesome, but I don't have any flatish area's large enough to have one that size.

I'd love to have a powerline, if they kept it secure. The last club I was in had 2, and it was insane trying to keep people out.



You have westervelt property. You are allowed 10% of the acreage to be in food plots. We have a few over an acre and one right at two acres. Talk to your lease manager. He can authorize bigger plots, they did it for me. Just can’t exceed the 10% of total. Unless you have power lines or gas lines like we do. Those don’t count toward the 10%. Just telling you how we went about it. Now you can plant load outs and other areas without trees but they aren’t protected like the 10% you have on file.



Re: Lease Price [Re: JustHunt] #4104311
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Originally Posted by JustHunt
Originally Posted by Lockjaw
I would pay $115 to have a food plot bigger than an acre. If I could have 10 food plots on my lease that were a couple acre's each, that would be awesome, but I don't have any flatish area's large enough to have one that size.

I'd love to have a powerline, if they kept it secure. The last club I was in had 2, and it was insane trying to keep people out.



You have westervelt property. You are allowed 10% of the acreage to be in food plots. We have a few over an acre and one right at two acres. Talk to your lease manager. He can authorize bigger plots, they did it for me. Just can’t exceed the 10% of total. Unless you have power lines or gas lines like we do. Those don’t count toward the 10%. Just telling you how we went about it. Now you can plant load outs and other areas without trees but they aren’t protected like the 10% you have on file.


You sure it's 10%, and not 1%?

10% of a 1000 acre lease is 100 acres of fields.

There's no way they allow that.


"You think I care? Roll Damn Tide"

Have you tried Google?
Re: Lease Price [Re: hunterbuck] #4104445
03/21/24 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Originally Posted by JustHunt
Originally Posted by Lockjaw
I would pay $115 to have a food plot bigger than an acre. If I could have 10 food plots on my lease that were a couple acre's each, that would be awesome, but I don't have any flatish area's large enough to have one that size.

I'd love to have a powerline, if they kept it secure. The last club I was in had 2, and it was insane trying to keep people out.



You have westervelt property. You are allowed 10% of the acreage to be in food plots. We have a few over an acre and one right at two acres. Talk to your lease manager. He can authorize bigger plots, they did it for me. Just can’t exceed the 10% of total. Unless you have power lines or gas lines like we do. Those don’t count toward the 10%. Just telling you how we went about it. Now you can plant load outs and other areas without trees but they aren’t protected like the 10% you have on file.


You sure it's 10%, and not 1%?

10% of a 1000 acre lease is 100 acres of fields.

There's no way they allow that.


😂. Ya I was a bit tired and my math got crazy. It’s 1%. We have 2000 acres and are allowed 20 acres of plots. Thanks for helping me out



Re: Lease Price [Re: hunterbuck] #4104503
03/21/24 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Originally Posted by wareagle22
Originally Posted by lectrode
We were just informed by Weyrehauser that it was going to cost more per acre if there were green fields .


Rayonier charges us $100 per greenfield for plots less than an acre. No telling what they charge for big plots???


Rayonier charges Southside and Carney $115/acre for food plots. Doesn't matter what size, they add it all up and charge $115/acre on the total. Powerlines, roads, and gas line right-of-ways are "free".

Each plot has a sticker on either the shooting house or a small sign at the entrance to the field letting you know the size of the field, and therefore it's "cost" (size x $115).


I lease from Rayonier and their website says 160 per acre.

Re: Lease Price [Re: TCG5] #4104511
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I wish I had 10 acres in fields. I basically plant roads and log decks. Sometimes when they thin they create area's I can plant, but these aren't always easy to get to, much less do much work on. The downside is loggers ruin most of them when they come and cut, even though they aren't supposed to get on the, they do.

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Originally Posted by pcola4
Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Originally Posted by wareagle22
Originally Posted by lectrode
We were just informed by Weyrehauser that it was going to cost more per acre if there were green fields .


Rayonier charges us $100 per greenfield for plots less than an acre. No telling what they charge for big plots???


Rayonier charges Southside and Carney $115/acre for food plots. Doesn't matter what size, they add it all up and charge $115/acre on the total. Powerlines, roads, and gas line right-of-ways are "free".

Each plot has a sticker on either the shooting house or a small sign at the entrance to the field letting you know the size of the field, and therefore it's "cost" (size x $115).


I lease from Rayonier and their website says 160 per acre.



Must have gone up (no surprise) in the last couple of years. My info is straight from the guy who runs Carney.


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Have you tried Google?
Re: Lease Price [Re: Lockjaw] #4104531
03/21/24 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
I wish I had 10 acres in fields. I basically plant roads and log decks. Sometimes when they thin they create area's I can plant, but these aren't always easy to get to, much less do much work on. The downside is loggers ruin most of them when they come and cut, even though they aren't supposed to get on the, they do.



Dont wish for too much. I'm getting rid of some foodplots and letting them grow up. The price of seed, fert, and fuel is too high. Ive got one 400 acre place that had about 12-14 acres and now I maintain 8 acres. My private ground I have 5 acres split between 4 spots. Then on the group land there is 20ish plots with about 32 acres. I'm going to cut that back over the next couple years to 20 acres. Too much money and mostly not enough time. Just doing my private spots my wife is about to kill me. I've got to spread more lime tomorrow. Then april I'll be liming the major stuff. Ive got to have someone pick up 26 1500lb totes next week. Luckily I get the lime for free. But, without help from a couple older guys I'd be up poop creek.

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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by marshmud991
If any of you guys that refuse to pay the higher lease prices have any property y’all are turning loose in South Monroe co., let me know. We’re always looking to expand and willing to pay for the lease.


Yep....out of staters running the lease prices up.

Naw!! I just posted that to take a little jab. The only place I’m looking at more land to lease in or around Sonora.


It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.


Re: Lease Price [Re: Lockjaw] #4104732
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
I wish I had 10 acres in fields. I basically plant roads and log decks. Sometimes when they thin they create area's I can plant, but these aren't always easy to get to, much less do much work on. The downside is loggers ruin most of them when they come and cut, even though they aren't supposed to get on the, they do.



You’ll have to take that up with your lease manager. We’ve had em mess up a couple but we watch em when they cutting. I’ll, call em immediately if I hear of or see any plot damage. Pay too much for loggers to mess up my fields that are supposed to be protected according to westervelt.



Re: Lease Price [Re: TCG5] #4104759
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I saw 1000+ acres for 29$ per acre the other day.


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Re: Lease Price [Re: TCG5] #4105519
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How much is the average price of land in south Alabama. Seems to me like some of yall should be buying if it is feasible. I know a guy just bought a chunk of land on the court house steps that probably aint spending that kind of money. Get you some buddys that are paying that kind of money to hunt and let them help you pay for it

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