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Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: bamaeyedoc] #4090765
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whole lot of BS im seeing .

Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: bamaeyedoc] #4090784
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1. Fire Chuck. Then shoot him
2. Fire everyone who had a hand in that CWD debacle
3. find out where all this corn money is going and fire and prosecute the slicks stealing privilege funds
4. Make it against the law for any State official to so much as step foot on an SOA
5. Codify some legislation that makes it illegal to put any CURRENT open permit public land into the SOA system- acquire new lands? fine whatever, but no current property

Private land- Season: Oct 1- Feb 10 statewide.
Bow Season Oct 1 - Feb 10
Rifle season Thanksgiving Day- Feb 10
Shoot however many you want, it is your land, you paid for it, everyone else can pound sand

Public land- Season: Oct 1- Feb 10 statewide
Bow Season Oct 1 - Feb 10
Rifle season Thanksgiving Day- Feb 10
You can shoot 3 bucks whenever you want- for all you communist/big government/rule lovers, fine, throw in a rule that says bucks must meet one of 3 criteria

150 lbs
13" inside spread
confirmed to be 3 years old by looking at jawbone
This protects all yearlings and a lot of 2 year olds. Might high grade bucks but oh well, this is public land, there aint that many people who are super consistent out there anyway.


Doe days December 20th-31st- 1 per day

Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: bamaeyedoc] #4090802
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Nightwatchman , doe days need to be longer in places . when it was two a day i never put a dent in them here and i was hard on them . were a lot of times id kill two on the same hunt.

Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: MC21] #4090803
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Originally Posted by MC21
Originally Posted by CNC
How are you giving the hunters in Marshall Co and Bullock Co the same amount of doe tags??


If you read my proposal your are not. You could limit the number of does shot in a county. Once that number is hit cut off does for that county and apply fines to anyone caught shooting a doe there. It’s the same thing the state is doing for Turkeys on WMAS. 4 “tags” state wide but you can only kill 2 birds on any WMA.


In my opinion doe days is the best way to handle moderating doe harvest......I dont see where it needs to be any more complicated than that


We dont rent pigs
Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: bamaeyedoc] #4090808
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like i said for years now itll be check in station wanted and a few still wont be happy . lol

Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: Frankie] #4090873
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Originally Posted by Frankie
Nightwatchman , doe days need to be longer in places . when it was two a day i never put a dent in them here and i was hard on them . were a lot of times id kill two on the same hunt.


ok, sure. If you own the property, shoot does all year long if you want

I have never hunted a piece of public land that I thought had too many does

Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: Nightwatchman] #4090894
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Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
150 lbs
confirmed to be 3 years old by looking at jawbone
Hunters are supposed to be able to analyze deer jaws on the hoof and gauge 150lb? There are also people who pack deer out from deep in public land.

If you want antler restrictions X" inside spread and 3-4 points on one side or something along those lines.

TBH just limiting to 2 bucks, one with antler restrictions, and 2-3 does + DMP if you want more would increase the deer herd by quite a bit.

"I have never hunted a piece of public land that I thought had too many does"
I can see deer on public most hunts but I've only had 1 honey hole on public that I ALWAYS saw deer in. 5-6 does every time and decent bucks most of the time. Was a super narrow SMZ with thick pines on one side and cutover on the other. Didn't know how good I had it there. Huge PITA to get in and out of but it was worth it.

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Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: Nightwatchman] #4090897
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150 lbs
13" inside spread
confirmed to be 3 years old by looking at jawbone
This protects all yearlings and a lot of 2 year olds. Might high grade bucks but oh well, this is public land, there aint that many people who are super consistent out there anyway.


Doe days December 20th-31st- 1 per day

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Has AL ever tried a antler spread restriction? I have only been here fro 3 yrs and was just wondering? I hunt in MS and they have a antler spread restriction and it set up by the zones they have established......

Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: Antelope08] #4090903
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Originally Posted by Antelope08

Has AL ever tried a antler spread restriction? I have only been here fro 3 yrs and was just wondering? I hunt in MS and they have a antler spread restriction and it set up by the zones they have established......
Other than the SOAs, a few pieces of public land have done them on a trial basis I believe. I know of one at least.

Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: Nightwatchman] #4090930
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Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
Originally Posted by Frankie
Nightwatchman , doe days need to be longer in places . when it was two a day i never put a dent in them here and i was hard on them . were a lot of times id kill two on the same hunt.


ok, sure. If you own the property, shoot does all year long if you want

I have never hunted a piece of public land that I thought had too many does




i kinda miss read that , thought you meant every where for doe days . i see its for public

Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: RandanAL] #4090934
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Originally Posted by RandanAL
Originally Posted by Antelope08

Has AL ever tried a antler spread restriction? I have only been here fro 3 yrs and was just wondering? I hunt in MS and they have a antler spread restriction and it set up by the zones they have established......
Other than the SOAs, a few pieces of public land have done them on a trial basis I believe. I know of one at least.


Okay....thanks......

Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: CNC] #4090963
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I don't care what the rules are, only the people who follow rules will follow them.

Let me make a point. I could go out on my lease in my truck, with a bed cover, and kill a deer. I could skin and quarter it on the lease, and put the meat in a cooler, under the bed cover. Then leave the club.

Who knows I have a deer? Can a warden just stop me and ask to search my truck? I think not. I suppose he could follow me home and see if I unload it, but you get the point.

And if I hunt my own land I live on, no one needs to know anything.

Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: RandanAL] #4090994
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Originally Posted by RandanAL
Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
150 lbs
confirmed to be 3 years old by looking at jawbone
Hunters are supposed to be able to analyze deer jaws on the hoof and gauge 150lb? There are also people who pack deer out from deep in public land.

If you want antler restrictions X" inside spread and 3-4 points on one side or something along those lines.

TBH just limiting to 2 bucks, one with antler restrictions, and 2-3 does + DMP if you want more would increase the deer herd by quite a bit.

"I have never hunted a piece of public land that I thought had too many does"
I can see deer on public most hunts but I've only had 1 honey hole on public that I ALWAYS saw deer in. 5-6 does every time and decent bucks most of the time. Was a super narrow SMZ with thick pines on one side and cutover on the other. Didn't know how good I had it there. Huge PITA to get in and out of but it was worth it.



Just because you see deer every time doesn’t mean there are too many deer

Also, the 3 criteria work together. On average, you would satisfy at least one of those requirements with a 3 year old

And if you’re worried about packing out deer on public land, good. It’s supposed to be difficult

Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: bamaeyedoc] #4091016
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15 dog tags

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Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: bamaeyedoc] #4091019
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I'll start by saying that I have no idea of what the deer heard is like in parts of the state that I don't hunt. I do hunt several counties through the black belt. That said, I would be in favor of two weeks of doe season. One around Thanksgiving, the other at Christmas. If you think you have more does that need taking, use the DMP for tags. Three buck tags. If they're gonna continue to charge a baiting fee, hire some more wardens. February 10th end date is not needed everywhere. My two cents worth.

Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: aucivil] #4091034
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Originally Posted by aucivil
15 dog tags

If you get dog tags, I know where 3 obnoxiously barking dogs are that you can start with!!!


It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.


Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: Lockjaw] #4091057
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I don't care what the rules are, only the people who follow rules will follow them.
Can a warden just stop me and ask to search my truck? I think not. I suppose he could follow me home and see if I unload it, but you get the point.








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If there is reason to believe you've been hunting then he doesn't have to ask. He/she can just do it.


Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: bamaeyedoc] #4091142
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Leave the 3 buck limit alone.

Remove Feb hunting from Zone A entirely. If pockets inside Zone A legitimately need an extension provide it using the best boundaries available.

Evaluate the consequences of cell phones and baiting to determine its impact.

Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: Lockjaw] #4091177
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
I don't care what the rules are, only the people who follow rules will follow them.

Let me make a point. I could go out on my lease in my truck, with a bed cover, and kill a deer. I could skin and quarter it on the lease, and put the meat in a cooler, under the bed cover. Then leave the club.

Who knows I have a deer? Can a warden just stop me and ask to search my truck? I think not. I suppose he could follow me home and see if I unload it, but you get the point.

And if I hunt my own land I live on, no one needs to know anything.









same with tags , i got nephews and BIL to get tags to use in there name . all id have to do kill the deer call them. people wanna break the law they gonna do it .

Re: Rule changes proposal suggestions [Re: JHL] #4091179
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Originally Posted by JHL
I'll start by saying that I have no idea of what the deer heard is like in parts of the state that I don't hunt. I do hunt several counties through the black belt. That said, I would be in favor of two weeks of doe season. One around Thanksgiving, the other at Christmas. If you think you have more does that need taking, use the DMP for tags. Three buck tags. If they're gonna continue to charge a baiting fee, hire some more wardens. February 10th end date is not needed everywhere. My two cents worth.





thing issss ever body cant use DMP .

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