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Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: cartervj] #4086483
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Originally Posted by cartervj
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Its not just the Catholic Church, its all non-Muslim churches. When you look at the assault on the Church by the lefty loonies, and then you look at how the Muslims push out non-Muslims, then you begin to understand why you have the Alphabet people protesting against Israel.
The crazy letter people have shattered numerous Christian denominations into factions by altering the political organizations of the Churches. Its straight out of the Bible on exactly how evil operates and Christians have ignored the lessons that keep us together. The Jews have done better at keeping some of the insanity out buts its creeping into their culture as well, and that is why there are Jewish Democrats.

The root is Satan’s never ending Hatred for God. This will get much worse before it gets better. This will not end until Jesus Christ comes back to reign over this Earth and Satan is finally defeated.



Gotta compare regions and religions. Anything in more liberal areas tend to incorporate progressive ideologies into their religion

I can compare the 4 cities of the shoals and see where the more utopian churches are located.

I am not sure if You understood what I was referring to? Satan is always trying to divide and destroy the Church and separate Us- Humans from Our Lord and Creator is what I meant. If We are separated from God and do not know and accept Jesus Christ as Our Lord and Savior and washed in the Blood then We are separated from God. Satan will continue attacking and dividing the Church till the end.


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Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: Happysappy] #4086493
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No I did understand. I was pointing out that the liberalization of the word occurs more so in progressive thinking areas. From there it filters down.


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Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: Happysappy] #4086536
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Jesus didn't tell His disciples to go out and be good Catholics, and you can insert your denomination in there if you think it's better than any other one.

Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: Happysappy] #4086538
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The GOD culture videos cover the Catholic church as well as the current Israeli leadership in depth. Both will be complicit in end times. Before anyone starts bashing. I'm not talking about the Hebrews that GOD chose as his people. They should not be confused with the leadership of Israel. The catholic church as been corrupt almost from the beginning and I've got nothing for them. I'm iffy on the Israeli leadership and not sure exactly what to think about them.

I support the nation but have deep questions.

It's not just the catholics. Many if not most protestant churches are also corrupt and self destructing. And at the heart of most of it are the ABCDEFG crowd.


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Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: Happysappy] #4086561
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And sometimes the MONEY crowd unfortunately

Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: cartervj] #4086759
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Originally Posted by cartervj
Here we go

None of the Catholic church’s in the shoals has dealt with child sex crimes, I know of CoC and Baptist church that did

Lots of casting of stones around here.

I’ll let God decide cause I know man is too screwed up to do so.

The key is HOW those things were dealt with. The Catholic Church is known for not dealing with it but hiding it.


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Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: Happysappy] #4086767
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Why are Catholic Priests rushing to Wal Mart….they heard boys pants were half off.

Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: Driveby] #4086770
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Originally Posted by Driveby
Originally Posted by cartervj
Here we go

None of the Catholic church’s in the shoals has dealt with child sex crimes, I know of CoC and Baptist church that did

Lots of casting of stones around here.

I’ll let God decide cause I know man is too screwed up to do so.

The key is HOW those things were dealt with. The Catholic Church is known for not dealing with it but hiding it.



One of the churches I mentioned hid the crimes for some time.

That’s wasn’t my point

It’s that cavalier holier than though attitude was my point and is evidently missed scripture by many.

He without sin cast the first stone.


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Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: Happysappy] #4086772
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Many churches today are more concerned with living like Pharisees, or the other extreme, removing scripture from their theology. It’s one extreme or the other. I view todays Catholic Church very much like the Pharisees. Jesus crushed the established religion of world based salvation to say I am salvation. I’m not saying all Catholics are like Pharisees. The establishment is however. The church as a whole needs to start showing compassion, love and service in their ministries, while not running from the judgement for sinful living.

Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: Happysappy] #4086774
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They had a transgender funeral where some idiot was screaming St. Cecilla mother of all whores. In their defense they claimed they were duped.I guess y'all will judge me but if i had been at the door i would picked up on the looks at the crowd and had a security meeting. The democrats have a bill to stop church security. Things fixing to get real interesting

Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: Happysappy] #4086802
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I think what happened is pretty simple... They thought they would get shamed if they didn't allow this Transgender funeral and likely get protested or have problems......So they allowed it hoping it would go their direction and it went the wrong direction.

Not that big a deal it's an event being viewed in isolation. News media does this all the time they pick an apple off the tree that's bad and claim the entire tree is rotten.

As far as the Catholic Church is concerned that's pretty much just a banking operation and has been since they figured out people were naïve enough to basically put them on their household payroll.... to allegedly get their sins forgiven.

Everyone else's "Church" ain't much better at the higher levels of their operation. I'd be careful about casting stones. You are also weak and don't know were to draw the lines or unwilling to do so.

It would probably be wise for many of you to understand what you believe in going back in history and understanding the spread of Christianity and the main events and who did what and how all this came to Europe and why.

Most of you don't know anything about it. But you have devoted your life to believing it. I think I'd want to take a deep dive and get a deeper understanding of something I put so much stock in daily.



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Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: Happysappy] #4086824
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Good post goatkiller and I agree with most of it. However I know of some churches (not Catholic) that require a W2 to show that one’s tithes are being paid


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Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: cartervj] #4086828
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Originally Posted by cartervj
Good post goatkiller and I agree with most of it. However I know of some churches (not Catholic) that require a W2 to show that one’s tithes are being paid


You serious clark?

Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: whack-n-stack] #4086833
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Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
Originally Posted by cartervj
Good post goatkiller and I agree with most of it. However I know of some churches (not Catholic) that require a W2 to show that one’s tithes are being paid


You serious clark?


Oh yeah, Ive heard of this too. And older folks having to show SS checks and cash values in iras and life insurance. Ive never been a member of one of these but I have attended a few.

Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: Happysappy] #4086838
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I spent some time in Germany in the 90's. I was told in the town we were in you had to declare whether you were Catholic or Lutheran. Once you declared, your tithe was withheld from your check by your employer, same as taxes. I guess it essentially was a tax.

Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: Semo] #4086839
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Originally Posted by Semo
Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
Originally Posted by cartervj
Good post goatkiller and I agree with most of it. However I know of some churches (not Catholic) that require a W2 to show that one’s tithes are being paid


You serious clark?


Oh yeah, Ive heard of this too. And older folks having to show SS checks and cash values in iras and life insurance. Ive never been a member of one of these but I have attended a few.


I'm not Mormon, but a friend of mine growing up who was often had the Church officials come visit his house because his father had trouble making the 10% monthly payment.


Never Trust Government

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Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: Happysappy] #4086843
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Personally I think the Catholic Church is mostly a haven for Democrats because they don't promote a personal relationship with God. Don't mean to make anyone mad with that comment but seriously.... get up in there and recite rituals lighting candles and swingin crap around and I'm not sure what that's got to do with YOU and God. All I'm saying it that is seems like this leaves a wide lane for all those sins that are overlooked by this congregation... like supporting radical atheist ideology where killing babies is ok and getting preached to by pedophiles and leaders who live their lives in sin. That's all ok.

If it were up to me and it were my Church when FJB got up on the hot mike and mumbled incoherently about how it's ok to murder the innocent and if you don't agree you are racist. If that were my Church I'd publicly disavow him and tell him he's a sinner and he needs to come on in for some confessionals... as long as Hunter comes with him and brings the checkbook of course.

That's just my thoughts on it. Don't be offended.

Don't be offended if you are Baptist either you ALL got them sitting in the pews next to you too. It displays weakness IMO and will be the end of this Religion ultimately.


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Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: Turkey] #4086844
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Originally Posted by Turkey
I spent some time in Germany in the 90's. I was told in the town we were in you had to declare whether you were Catholic or Lutheran. Once you declared, your tithe was withheld from your check by your employer, same as taxes. I guess it essentially was a tax.


Talk about Church and State ! What did you tell them?



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Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: Skinny] #4086848
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Originally Posted by Semo
Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
Originally Posted by cartervj
Good post goatkiller and I agree with most of it. However I know of some churches (not Catholic) that require a W2 to show that one’s tithes are being paid


You serious clark?


Oh yeah, Ive heard of this too. And older folks having to show SS checks and cash values in iras and life insurance. Ive never been a member of one of these but I have attended a few.


I'm not Mormon, but a friend of mine growing up who was often had the Church officials come visit his house because his father had trouble making the 10% monthly payment.


One was a Baptist church

Being a wedding photog I saw things at some churches that were more inline with cults than Christianity


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Re: Catholic Church self destructing [Re: 2Dogs] #4086860
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by Turkey
I spent some time in Germany in the 90's. I was told in the town we were in you had to declare whether you were Catholic or Lutheran. Once you declared, your tithe was withheld from your check by your employer, same as taxes. I guess it essentially was a tax.


Talk about Church and State ! What did you tell them?


The Germanic states have taken over the church several times(along with most of europe). When the Prussians consolidated the Lutheran Church in the 1930s it started a large migration of German Lutherans to the US. Probably the fact that battles and wars were almost happening continuously since the reformation helped push the migration too. Those who have been under a state run church for hundreds of years are probably used to it.

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