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Re: New Browning A5 20 Gauge [Re: Gobl4me] #4086308
02/18/24 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Gobl4me
Is this gun made with benell’s inertia system too?

That’s what I was wondering also.


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Re: New Browning A5 20 Gauge [Re: Vernon Tull] #4086317
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No gun made is gonna make me pony up $2000 without touching it first.


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Re: New Browning A5 20 Gauge [Re: Bustinbeards] #4086323
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Originally Posted by Bustinbeards
Originally Posted by Gobl4me
Is this gun made with benell’s inertia system too?

That’s what I was wondering also.



Yes. It’s been refered to as the Brownelli.
Honestly I like it better than the old school A5s as far as it being smoother shooting. The old school ones have a kerklunk effect after every shot. It’s not hard to overcome but it’s there. Some love that but if you’re used to shooting the inertia guns it’s different.


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Re: New Browning A5 20 Gauge [Re: FurFlyin] #4086326
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Originally Posted by FurFlyin
No gun made is gonna make me pony up $2000 without touching it first.



^^^^^^^This

Re: New Browning A5 20 Gauge [Re: Vernon Tull] #4086357
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Not a fan of brownings but that is a beautiful gun. Not being able to handle it and shoulder it before buying is a deal breaker for me.

Re: New Browning A5 20 Gauge [Re: Gobl4me] #4086489
02/18/24 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Gobl4me
Is this gun made with benell’s inertia system too?


Basically yes, but Browning calls it a different scientific name. Whether you call it inertia or kenematic, it’s all short recoil or delayed blowback (<~~ at least that’s what it seems to me).

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Re: New Browning A5 20 Gauge [Re: Vernon Tull] #4086818
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Originally Posted by Vernon Tull
I have enjoyed owning and shooting all the Brownings I’ve had, but dang it Browning is the KING of getting customers’ interest up with very attractive marketing on both the website and catalogs in the past … and then not actually manufacturing the advertised models or making very few of them before quietly dropping that line or model. I’ve often said that half of Browning’s models are “ghost guns” that don’t actually exist.


Case and Point. How long did they make the Silver Stalker? Very few and not for long. I had one but the LOP was to long for me and I traded it.

Re: New Browning A5 20 Gauge [Re: Gobl4me] #4086826
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Originally Posted by Gobl4me
Is this gun made with benelli’s inertia system too?


idk. But I love a Benelli manufactured by H&K. Wish I had a couple more.

Re: New Browning A5 20 Gauge [Re: whack-n-stack] #4086873
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Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
Originally Posted by Gobl4me
Is this gun made with benelli’s inertia system too?


idk. But I love a Benelli manufactured by H&K. Wish I had a couple more.


I'm not sure the span of time Benelli was hooked up with H&K, but I know the patent for Benelli's inertia operating system is dated 1986. Going forward they made a pile of $$$$$$ building lots of shotguns with that very basic, durable system. Browning's new A5 uses a copy of that same system, but they call it . . . [ahem] . . . the Kinematic recoil system.

As I said up above, I think of the system as short recoil or delayed blowback because that's how the gun press described it in the 1980s. However, I mentioned that once in a YouTube comment and was *blasted* -- pun intended -- by a fellow who said the state of Alabama should take back my high school diploma due to my blatant and shocking lack of physics knowledge.

Re: New Browning A5 20 Gauge [Re: whack-n-stack] #4086923
02/19/24 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
Originally Posted by Gobl4me
Is this gun made with benelli’s inertia system too?


idk. But I love a Benelli manufactured by H&K. Wish I had a couple more.

No Benelli's were manufactured by H&K. That was simply the importer for them


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Re: New Browning A5 20 Gauge [Re: Vernon Tull] #4086950
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The first ones were H&K I was told when I bought it new. All their parts were machined. Versus a year later made SBEs having some stamped parts in the trigger group. My first one is H&K stamped and I thought Beretta imported them. Bought it from Buck and Bass in Memphis, closest place I could find that had one. I bought it on my first credit card and paid off the next month. I’ve owned 2 H&Ks and 10 plus more other varying Super Black Eagles.

The first time I saw one was in Arkansas and went by to see a demonstration. Guy showed how to float a shell and broke it down to show ease of cleaning in the field if needed. I had a 835 because it was the first 3.5 gun I could find.

I have heard from some that said they were manufactured to H&Ks specs but I’ve also been told that H&K made trendiest year or two because the specs were tight for the SBE to function.

Either way it’s obvious the first few years were a different gun

I broke and ejector and had to send it in to beretta for repairs if I recall correctly. I think he told me they were workjng on getting Benelli USA setup by the next year. I’d had the forcing cone lengthened ported by Angle Porting in Arkansas. Benellis held into a few fortified it would run the lightest thru the heaviest loads. Also had a spring kit installed in the stock. They did say it was the ugliest benelli they’d seen. Cabelas teflon coated it and the color was nothing like it was slipped to be.

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Re: New Browning A5 20 Gauge [Re: Vernon Tull] #4087009
02/19/24 04:20 PM
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I ordered one a couple weeks ago right after the shot show


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Re: New Browning A5 20 Gauge [Re: Vernon Tull] #4087178
02/19/24 08:41 PM
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I’m not sure why Browning went away from the original system. Dang old A5s would shoot thousands of times.


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