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Russia/China #4083239
02/13/24 01:30 PM
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Are they really the world's enemies or is it an excuse for America's war complex to keep churning out dollars. Kind of like the NAACP, Al Sharpton? For them to exist, they fan the fire to keep racial tensions at a high. Same with America and our perceived enemies


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Re: Russia/China [Re: IDOT] #4083242
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China is 100% evil and is our enemy.

If we would have allowed Russia into NATO they wouldn’t be a concern but we didn’t so they are.

I know the Tucker interview has a lot of people, especially conservatives, wanting to see the good in Russia but it’s not there. Putin got the exact point out in his interview that he wanted. He’s extremely intelligent and highly trained and doing so.

I don’t support the Ukraine effort at all though because they’re just as evil

Re: Russia/China [Re: IDOT] #4083250
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I don't know what to believe other than this "good vs. evil" framework we're being fed by the politicians and the media is wrong. Binary choices are easy, and that's why they use them.

Re: Russia/China [Re: FreeStateHunter] #4083255
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Originally Posted by FreeStateHunter
China is 100% evil and is our enemy.
And very dedicated to Chinamen


Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Re: Russia/China [Re: IDOT] #4083256
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It's all bull crap, the politicians just use these wars to launder my tax dollars. How about those for an idea, we bring back all our military over the whole world and stage it all around our borders. We continue to build our military to the greatest fighting force in the world. We tell any country that attacks US. That will wipe them off the face of the earth. We stop all foreign aid. With the money we save we give tax PAYERS a 50% break. I really don't see a scenario where anyone attacks us at that point?

Re: Russia/China [Re: IDOT] #4083258
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I had to practice getting under my desk in grade school because russia was going to nuke us at any time. It was bullcrap then ,just like it is now!

Re: Russia/China [Re: IDOT] #4083267
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Create the boogy man to scare people then watch the money flow. It’s all lies. Most just want to be left alone and raise their family and live a decent life but there ain’t no money in that

Re: Russia/China [Re: FreeStateHunter] #4083269
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Originally Posted by FreeStateHunter
China is 100% evil and is our enemy.

If we would have allowed Russia into NATO they wouldn’t be a concern but we didn’t so they are.

I know the Tucker interview has a lot of people, especially conservatives, wanting to see the good in Russia but it’s not there. Putin got the exact point out in his interview that he wanted. He’s extremely intelligent and highly trained and doing so.

I don’t support the Ukraine effort at all though because they’re just as evil
pretty much how I feel about it all. I do wonder how much our corruption and secrets in and with Ukraine is playing in to the plan. I feel there are some big secrets there our politicians will go to any length to keep from being exposed

Re: Russia/China [Re: Backwards cowboy] #4083306
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Originally Posted by Backwoods cowboy
It's all bull crap, the politicians just use these wars to launder my tax dollars. How about those for an idea, we bring back all our military over the whole world and stage it all around our borders. We continue to build our military to the greatest fighting force in the world. We tell any country that attacks US. That will wipe them off the face of the earth. We stop all foreign aid. With the money we save we give tax PAYERS a 50% break. I really don't see a scenario where anyone attacks us at that point?


I have thought of that as well, but Americans don't have the stomach to wage a war on our soil. Being in a forward position (i.e. outside the US) gives us a strategic advantage to delay the fight on our soil. Certainly with our long range missiles and bombers - we can reach targets globally, but the fight would eventually come to our soil. I completely agree with you in regards to the US stop being the world's watchdog.

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Re: Russia/China [Re: IDOT] #4083312
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Our enemy lives right here in America. We pay them to rob us. Anything china or russia can do to us can only be done if our real enemy allows it. Look at the border and tell me im wrong. We have 542 enemies destroying this country, they wear blue and red ties. They left caring for our well being long ago. 330 million of us allow 542 to do this to us, not just allow it but pay them to do it. Its pretty pathetic really.

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Re: Russia/China [Re: jwalker77] #4083319
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Our enemy lives right here in America. We pay them to rob us.
This. Boots on the ground fighting is old school. A true attack on US will be from within. Cyber/banking collapse. It will not be Red Dawn.


Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Re: Russia/China [Re: IDOT] #4083329
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China is our Enemy. And Trump was working to keep them in check and the tariffs and the incentives for US companies to bring manufacturing back to the US from China was taking a heave toll. So much so that the Chinese released a bio weapon on the world.



I think Russia could be dealt with. Russia was assured that NATO would not add any more nations if they allowed East Germany to reunite with West Germany. Then NATO (at the US insistence) increased its size drastically.


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Re: Russia/China [Re: IDOT] #4083334
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I have seen it happen. Chinese-American people who are legitimate earned citizens here still do what the Chinese government tells them to do.


Never Trust Government

"You can be broke but you cant be poor." Ruthie-May Webster
Re: Russia/China [Re: jwalker77] #4083337
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Our enemy lives right here in America. We pay them to rob us. Anything china or russia can do to us can only be done if our real enemy allows it. Look at the border and tell me im wrong. We have 542 enemies destroying this country, they wear blue and red ties. They left caring for our well being long ago. 330 million of us allow 542 to do this to us, not just allow it but pay them to do it. Its pretty pathetic really.


+1

Re: Russia/China [Re: IDOT] #4083357
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To me Russia/Ukraine is almost a Civil War. Ukraine has been part of Russia or had a pro-Russian government and influenced by the Kremlin for most of my life.

Everyone on here is so quick to separate the 2. How? All the crooked Commies and thugs left after 2014? No - they are still there taking our money currently.

Is Russia our friend? Hail No. Are they any sort of real threat... Doesn't appear so. The reason Europe doesn't care about Ukraine is because they are looking at Russia/Ukraine and not feeling very vulnerable. Russia is a paper tiger. Everyone knows it except those in Washington who want to continue to feed the Military Industrial Complex.

China is the real enemy. They have enough economic power and influence to hurt us at this point and they are doing things to undermine us at every turn. nd it's working. We should be treating them like the USSR. We never did business with the USSR. It's completely crazy but also coming to you form people that think when you print money it's free.


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Re: Russia/China [Re: IDOT] #4083367
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Keep in mind. During the Tucker interview Putin gave a very specific set of numbers for China and Russia's GDP and other economic factors, specifically trade balance numbers. Its normal for a politician in every country to state numbers which make his country look good, so most figured he was making up the numbers. Turns out, his numbers are closer to being accurate than our own numbers.


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Re: Russia/China [Re: Skinny] #4083370
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Keep in mind. During the Tucker interview Putin gave a very specific set of numbers for China and Russia's GDP and other economic factors, specifically trade balance numbers. Its normal for a politician in every country to state numbers which make his country look good, so most figured he was making up the numbers. Turns out, his numbers are closer to being accurate than our own numbers.

But hes a liar, every word that comes out of his mouth is a lie

Re: Russia/China [Re: jmudler] #4083371
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Originally Posted by jmudler
Originally Posted by jwalker77
Our enemy lives right here in America. We pay them to rob us.
This. Boots on the ground fighting is old school. A true attack on US will be from within. Cyber/banking collapse. It will not be Red Dawn.

It will be, if the economic collapse every comes. Only difference will be that we wont be fighting the Russians or the Chinese, it be between liberals and conservatives, elites and the people who actually work for a living. Hopefully it never comes to that.

Re: Russia/China [Re: IDOT] #4083374
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Liberals can only fight with the tools they got and those tools are financial, electronic, and political tools. If they want food, water, and electric then they better get ready for "give a sewer worker a blow-job day", followed by farmers, linemen, pipe-liners etc, day.


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Re: Russia/China [Re: Skinny] #4083378
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Liberals can only fight with the tools they got and those tools are financial, electronic, and political tools. If they want food, water, and electric then they better get ready for "give a sewer worker a blow-job day", followed by farmers, linemen, pipe-liners etc, day.

Bingo! That was my point exactly. If it comes down to it, I doubt it'll end up like most of them think it will.

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