Yeah that’s horse shucks. I’ve killed a lot of deer in dog clubs hunting the same property ran that day.

hunted a 1000acre lease in conecuh county for several yrs. we had a very large neighboring dog club. that being said, the majority of mount bucks ive taken came off that lease. The dog hunter's would push alot of those bucks to our property after a weekend hunt.. dealing with the dogs was frustrating at times but I can sure thank em for a few of the bigger deer i killed. Most of em were living on the dog hunters property & would only show up after they pressured the place

lots of times the dog have to bite a buck in the ass to get him up or the driver walk him up .

only real problem i have with dog hunting is if they turn the dogs loose where they have no permission. as for deer dogs running through ive never seen any harm done . for the most part they only run the deer they were already behind . just from what ive saw .

Most of the guys we met and got to know were really nice guys just doing what they’ve always done. We moved into their area unknowingly. We never tried to change the way they hunted. We just figured out how to work around it. The other 2 clubs that were close never caused an issue. We really got to know those guys well. They had their stuff together. It was just that one club that we had issues with. Only time we ever saw the GWs was they stopped in and questioned us about them hunting the road. Of course we played dumb although we saw them parked on the county road standing on their dog boxes many times. It wasn’t our place to do the GWs job for them. Told them we saw nothing and the GWs left and never saw them again.

I agree. I'm a life long dog hunter and I still hunt some also. Any dog man that turns his hounds loose on property they don't have permission to be on, just to run the deer to where they do, is scum. They give us all a bad name. That doesn't happen where I hunt, but I could see it happening on the smaller parcels here. I also doubt it happens nearly as much as it used to.

I understand the fact that a land owner has the right not to have dogs where he doesn't want them and he should be able to hunt how he wants on his land. That being said, IMO, I don't think a pack of hounds running a deer across another piece of property from somewhere else has any real impact on the hunting of that property.

We have guys who still hunt our dog club in the evenings after we quit running and will see and kill deer. Dog hunting has a few bad folks just like a still hunter poaching or doing things that aren’t sportsman like.

My experience hunting near dog clubs is that normal undisturbed deer movement is shut down completely. There have been zero exceptions for me. I tried multiple properties that were just a waste of time and money due to nearby dog hunting clubs. I would look elsewhere.

You'll notice that most people who dog hunt themselves think it's no problem. Most people who don't dog hunt think it impacts everyone around them. In areas with dog hunting my experience has been daylight activity is mostly going to be deer slipping through very cautiously or bounding away from barking dogs. Very little relaxed use of fields/open areas in daylight. This is coming from a western part of the state that used to have dog hunting but no longer does. I know some guys who used to hunt in a dog club back in the day and they say the same thing. They saw a lot of deer with the dogs, and it was action packed/fun/like a party, but switching to tree stand hunting allowed them to see more deer in a more natural state. Personally, I have no problem with dog hunting... if you can keep the dogs on your own place. I've just never seen it though I'm sure someone somewhere does it right. You need a massive block of land.

Funny story - my grandad owned some land in a dog hunting county. Basically an old family piece. He visited it and when he gets there a truck pulls up.

The Truck: "Hey... you've gotta get out of here... this is mister [Smith's] place, and only we have permission to hunt it"
Grandad: "Oh really. How do you know mister [Smith]"
The Truck: "We're friends with him and go way back. You've gotta leave"
Grandad: "Do you know how I could get in touch with him? What does he look like?"
The Truck: "Not telling you"
Grandad: "That's funny... because you're talking to him"

With the tracking systems we have today it absolutely can be done, and is done. When the dogs start to get out from where they are supposed to be. All I have to do is hit the tone button on the collars and they stop. It does not take massive blocks of land, just need roads to be able to get to them. Yes there are a lot of dog hunters that refuse to believe this. but I can tell you that for me and the people I hunt with, this is what happens. I will turn my dogs loose 5-6 times in a single day and run deer each time. Catch them turn them loose somewhere else. Never had them get off the property a single time.

But more to the OP. We have several members in the dog club with us that only still hunt. They see and kill plenty of deer. We will drop dogs right on top of them. When we move on the deer go back to what they were doing.

My experience as well.

I shined 3 bucks one night (legal in FL as long as you don't have a gun). Went there the next morning and hammered that block. Ran does out all day. I quit at 2 and put the dogs up and got in a stand around 4. I killed one of the 3 before 5 that evening. He was just feeding along like normal.

I hunt on hard hunted public land in FL. A 60,000 acre dog hunt WMA. It's adjacent to a hard hunted 60,000 acre still hunt WMA and a few limited entry WMAs. Probably totals 200,000 acres in all. If I'm still hunting, I'd rather hunt the limited entry WMAs obviously. But between the 2 very pressured 60,000 acre tracts, I'd much prefer to still hunt the dog hunt one.

The deer pattern the hunters and dogs. Most folks don't run dogs till dark and evenings can be great. Also, most dog hunters stay pretty close to the road and if you get away from the road, there is very little human pressure.

Exactly thats my experience, the deer are only moving because of the dogs. And There are some h .hunters that wont shoot a deer thats being moved by dogs. The doggers like to say that it dont hurt the movement but I know better, after several years now, the deer are finally moving in a normal pattern. I now see deer in green fields during the day and you can now track their movement. I am so glad that I dont have that worry any longer and I hope it stays like that

I live next to a dog club and I dog hunt in another county. No problem seeing deer on my land, but I've never seen a dog club truly manage for older bucks (not saying they don't exist). Can you kill deer next to a dog club? Absolutely. Can you manage your land next to a dog club? Depends on your expectations.

Also, if it's a lease, check to see why the lease is available. You may have your answer on whether you want it.

My experience also

The only property that I have hunted that got hammered by other folks dogs got bad quick. Deer went nocturnal almost immediately.

Every dog club I’ve been a part of killed 80% or more of their deer stalk hunting.

With no exceptions.

yeap

Maybe it time to give this a rest. No one is going to change the others mind so maybe best to leave it alone

You ain’t from around here are you

Well, true and to be fair, anyone trying to convince a feller that hunting next to an active dog club is going to be a consistent, wonderful experience - has already lost their mind - therefore it cannot be changed