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Remember: It's Wrong to Eat Your Children... #4076805
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In case you ever wonder why the Ukrainians hate the Russians so much all you have to do is go back to the early 1930's and the Holodomor...

https://veniceoarsman.com/11703/unc...en-chronicles-of-the-ukrainian-genocide/

The Russians tried to exterminate the Ukrainians through forced starvation.

There is much historical debate as to who was more evil: Hitler or Stalin, but we made Stalin our ally and gave a hell of a lot of weapons and material aid to him and his henchmen during WWII.

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Re: Remember: It's Wrong to Eat Your Children... [Re: Irishguy] #4076826
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Wow! Some evil history…now, doesn’t our government want to know if you grow a garden and what you grow in your garden??????

Re: Remember: It's Wrong to Eat Your Children... [Re: Lonster] #4076940
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Originally Posted by Lonster
Wow! Some evil history…now, doesn’t our government want to know if you grow a garden and what you grow in your garden??????


I thought that was if you sold to the public (truck-crop/farmers’ market) or grew anything labeled exotic, but they may be trying to use the USDA for an intrusion point. In the name of food safety, of course.


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Re: Remember: It's Wrong to Eat Your Children... [Re: Lonster] #4076942
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Originally Posted by Lonster
Wow! Some evil history…now, doesn’t our government want to know if you grow a garden and what you grow in your garden??????


They would like to know. I don't trust the motives but I have been called cynical. Don't mean to derail the thread.
https://www.usda.gov/peoples-garden/registration-form

I'd heard of the gulags but had never heard of this. Does not surprise me nor does it surprise me that the cannibalism in the camps was covered up as well. Didn't realize some of the names involved either until now. Someof the decisions made about support in WW2 amaze me looking back through the lens of time.

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Whoa there. Have you ever read "A Modest Proposal"?


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Originally Posted by jawbone
Whoa there. Have you ever read "A Modest Proposal"?


I have! It was an reading assignment in one of my college English/Literature classes.


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Re: Remember: It's Wrong to Eat Your Children... [Re: Irishguy] #4076958
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Stalin was just theRussian version of Hitler. Stalin killed as many russians as Hitler did.


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Re: Remember: It's Wrong to Eat Your Children... [Re: Irishguy] #4076968
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Originally Posted by Irishguy
In case you ever wonder why the Ukrainians hate the Russians so much all you have to do is go back to the early 1930's and the Holodomor...

https://veniceoarsman.com/11703/unc...en-chronicles-of-the-ukrainian-genocide/

The Russians tried to exterminate the Ukrainians through forced starvation.

There is much historical debate as to who was more evil: Hitler or Stalin, but we made Stalin our ally and gave a hell of a lot of weapons and material aid to him and his henchmen during WWII.

Stalin murdered far more of his people than Hitler.

Evil is evil. Can't be just a little bit evil just like you can't be a little pregnant.


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Re: Remember: It's Wrong to Eat Your Children... [Re: BhamFred] #4077172
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
Stalin was just theRussian version of Hitler. Stalin killed as many russians as Hitler did.



Truth be told probably more.

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Chairman Mao has a bigger body count than Hitler and Stalin combined.


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Re: Remember: It's Wrong to Eat Your Children... [Re: Skinny] #4077179
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Chairman Mao has a bigger body count than Hitler and Stalin combined.



Yep...

This is the Socialism and Communism that all the kids wearing Che Guevara tee shirts posting on Reddit don't get to learn in High School.

People also don't learn that the Nazi's were Socialists too. Everything in Nazi Germany was controlled by the central government. You either worked for The State or worked for a company the worked for The State.

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Re: Remember: It's Wrong to Eat Your Children... [Re: Irishguy] #4077196
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And why did Patton want Russia???


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Re: Remember: It's Wrong to Eat Your Children... [Re: Bronco 74] #4077206
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Originally Posted by Bronco 74
And why did Patton want Russia???


I don't know all the intricate details of any correspondence between Patton and the higher chain of command after WWII, but I would assume that Patton knew that the Russians would be an issue in the future, much like McArthur knew the Chinese would be too.

The problem with that kind of thinking is: What are you going to do with a country like that once you have it?

It all sounds good on paper until you have to actually administer a country like that. The British learned all that in India. It's a pain in the ass keeping a people under your thumb that don't want to be there. As great as we are, Americans don't have the stomach for that. The majority of us don't have the need or desire to dominate and oppress another civilization. People that do are called Sociopaths.

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