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Re: Unpopular opinion on scopes [Re: globe] #4073124
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Y’all remember the 56 mm 8x fixed power kahles ?

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In today's market it's a big paperweight that's about it.

Fixed power scopes are for shooting targets at a range. No way in cornbread hail.... would I be out in the woods trying to deer hunt with a fixed anything.

GIven the options and quality of scopes on the market today vs when fixed powers were a thing 30 years ago.... Hail to the Naw!

Crazy like MTG.


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I keep mine on the lowest setting all the time for quick target acquisition and wide field of view. If things happen fast, and they do more time than not for me, then I want all the advantage I can get. If things develop slowly and I need the extra magnification then I have time to turn the dial.

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Re: Unpopular opinion on scopes [Re: globe] #4073458
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What is everyone's recommendation for quick target acquisition and the widest field of view? Most of my shots are under 100 yards. 30-50 yards in a 30 year old stand of pines. I'm usually firing a 12 gauge sabot slug or a .35 Rem lever gun. I fire a .308 when I'm sitting on a green field.

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Originally Posted by HIPCEO
What is everyone's recommendation for quick target acquisition and the widest field of view? Most of my shots are under 100 yards. 30-50 yards in a 30 year old stand of pines. I'm usually firing a 12 gauge sabot slug or a .35 Rem lever gun. I fire a .308 when I'm sitting on a green field.


Depending on your budget, I'd suggest something in the 1-6X24 range. Vortex, Leupoold, Zeiss, all have offerings with several having illuminated reticles.

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Originally Posted by BPI
Originally Posted by HIPCEO
What is everyone's recommendation for quick target acquisition and the widest field of view? Most of my shots are under 100 yards. 30-50 yards in a 30 year old stand of pines. I'm usually firing a 12 gauge sabot slug or a .35 Rem lever gun. I fire a .308 when I'm sitting on a green field.


Depending on your budget, I'd suggest something in the 1-6X24 range. Vortex, Leupoold, Zeiss, all have offerings with several having illuminated reticles.


Trijicon too.

Re: Unpopular opinion on scopes [Re: BPI] #4073532
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Originally Posted by BPI
Originally Posted by HIPCEO
What is everyone's recommendation for quick target acquisition and the widest field of view? Most of my shots are under 100 yards. 30-50 yards in a 30 year old stand of pines. I'm usually firing a 12 gauge sabot slug or a .35 Rem lever gun. I fire a .308 when I'm sitting on a green field.


Depending on your budget, I'd suggest something in the 1-6X24 range. Vortex, Leupoold, Zeiss, all have offerings with several having illuminated reticles.


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Re: Unpopular opinion on scopes [Re: Goatkiller] #4073564
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller

In today's market it's a big paperweight that's about it.

Fixed power scopes are for shooting targets at a range. No way in cornbread hail.... would I be out in the woods trying to deer hunt with a fixed anything.

GIven the options and quality of scopes on the market today vs when fixed powers were a thing 30 years ago.... Hail to the Naw!

Crazy like MTG.


Guess I’m double crazy GK.One of my favorites is an old 110 chambered in .243,topped with a 4.75x40 Weaver Grand Slam grin

Re: Unpopular opinion on scopes [Re: globe] #4073619
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hell, I still use a German pre-war(ww2) 7.5X56 WITH A HUGE POST , MADE FOR NIGHT HUNTING. WHY DO YOU NEED A VARIABLE FOR SITTING ON A GREENFIELD????

High power is great till you leave it on 12x and try to shoot a running buck at 30 yards in the woods.....oops!!!


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Re: Unpopular opinion on scopes [Re: globe] #4073692
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Hunting conditions often dictate level of magnification. Not only max shot distance, but also if your scenario includes such things as antler/age restrictions and such. Unlike the TV shows, mature bucks seldom show themselves for very long in the open. By the time one uses binoculars to determine if the buck is a shooter, it's too late to pick up the firearm and have at it. I want enough magnification w/ FOV to quickly acquire/judge and shoot in quick order. Personally I'll go w/ a variable that let's me dial it up/down depending on the circumstances.

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i hate variables because i'm a fiddler; just can't leave 'em alone. used a fixed 6x two seasons separated by years. five deer killed at 75 to 295 yards. no need for more. right now, i've a .308 with fixed 2.75, and .308 with fixed 4x. all i need, and i'm 72. i actually prefer open sights, just because ... variables also weigh more than fixed peers, and are far more complex ... two bucks i've killed so far this season are with a crossbow, and a peep sighted single shot .45-70.


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Re: Unpopular opinion on scopes [Re: globe] #4074078
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The great news is they make a ton of different scopes to meet the needs of all of these different opinions!!!


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Re: Unpopular opinion on scopes [Re: globe] #4074107
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Variable power scopes are nice but I will say walking around with your scope dialed up to 10+ will kill your FOV and can cause difficulties when shouldering for a moving deer


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Re: Unpopular opinion on scopes [Re: globe] #4074160
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Variable hunting scopes outsell fixed power hunting scopes for a reason. Turning one up or down really ain't that complicated either. rofl

Re: Unpopular opinion on scopes [Re: Bull64] #4074195
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Originally Posted by Bull64
Originally Posted by Goatkiller

In today's market it's a big paperweight that's about it.

Fixed power scopes are for shooting targets at a range. No way in cornbread hail.... would I be out in the woods trying to deer hunt with a fixed anything.

GIven the options and quality of scopes on the market today vs when fixed powers were a thing 30 years ago.... Hail to the Naw!

Crazy like MTG.


Guess I’m double crazy GK.One of my favorites is an old 110 chambered in .243,topped with a 4.75x40 Weaver Grand Slam grin


We clearly need to get you some medication but at least I know your gun shoots good. grin

Fixed scopes and Dodo Birds about to be in the same category.


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Fixed scopes are like a car with only 1 forward gear in a 5 speed transmission. You are not realizing its potential.


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Re: Unpopular opinion on scopes [Re: globe] #4074727
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Since we’re driveling out our opinions:
The less Xs you can get away with on the top end, the better eyebox, edge clarity, stability in eye relief, exit pupil vs objective, etc you’ll have….which are all far more important in actual hunting than seeing ticks on a game animal at 100 yards. I’ve shot some of my best 100 yard groups with low power scopes and even heavy reticle, than high X, precision reticle scopes. Of the dozens of optics I have, I think I only have 2 that go to 10x, and maybe one other 3-9. The rest all started at under 2x, and get far more use at lower power….whether it’s deer, coyotes, hogs, or squirrels. I’ve used and owned some high X stuff. They were useful for LR target and some professional applications, where 1K and beyond was a standard thing. I’ve also used fixed 10x for the same work, and it was never a handicap….though reading wind past 500m was easier with more magnification. None of that is useful for any hunting I care to do. I think we have far more folks watching outer limits and deciding they’re not real hunters unless they have shot a critter past 783 yards….but they probably have tracking dogs on speed dial, also. wink

Some folks have a legitimate need/use for high magnification. They’re also probably not arguing against low magnification for general hunting scopes, either. They know which horses for which courses. Many just guess.

Re: Unpopular opinion on scopes [Re: blade] #4076173
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Originally Posted by blade
Y’all remember the 56 mm 8x fixed power kahles ?

Best lowlight hunting scope ever made back in the day


Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
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I shoot 600 and 1k with a 12x42 nightforce I usually run it around 32x when the mirage is kicking I hunt with a 5-25 it usually stays on 8x I hardly ever use the max power on either scope in either situation unless it's needed then I have it


Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
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I’ll stay with my Schmidt & bender zenith 2.5-10 x 56 zenith ffp, all I could ever need for hunting, also like the z3 swaro 3-10x42’s, have a few of those. Most of my shots are within 300 yd range, with 95% of them under 150.


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