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Re: Troubled child? [Re: Lockjaw] #4071448
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Take him to the local armed forces recruiting office drop him off

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Pray for guidance.

Re: Troubled child? [Re: Lockjaw] #4071459
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I hate you and your family are going through this. I have seen this so many times with family and friends.

Re: Troubled child? [Re: Standbanger] #4071463
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Originally Posted by Standbanger
Take him to the local armed forces recruiting office drop him off


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Re: Troubled child? [Re: Lockjaw] #4071477
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I know this will sound crazy but go get him some Methyl-Folate at the vitamin store and have him take it daily. You can Google Gary Brecka and read about folic acid and it's relation to ADD and depression. It may not work but but it's a cheap quick fix if it does.


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Re: Troubled child? [Re: Lockjaw] #4071487
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I turned 18 and went to jail about a month later. My daddy let me sit there for about 2 days. He knew he hadn’t been the best example through the years and my mother either. But he never had to talk to me or whip me or get on to me after he came and picked me up, or even on the ride home for that matter. I grew up and straightened out in those 2 days… luckily I was out of school and in college… wish it would have happened when I was 15.. people are different though. I pray for your situation.

Re: Troubled child? [Re: Lockjaw] #4071489
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Every Word Hoggin said. The Truth Hurts that’s why nobody wants to hear it.

Re: Troubled child? [Re: Lockjaw] #4071494
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Lots of prayers is your best bet.
Shoot if Mike Tyson had been my father he couldn't contain me as a kid..my father was brick Mason for years swole up neck stout fella
Eventually your son get tired of being in trouble and them two legged deer (wimmen)like men that are working.
He'll either resort back to his upbringing and things that he is passionate about such as hobbies or be career criminal .
Another reason hunting, fishing,god and guns are important for kids IMO

All you got know is talking to him as much as you can.
I don't believe in ADD just a high strung person .just needs talking to alot about how to be but yeah you can whoop a kid till they aren't ADD I've seen it but at 18 to late .

I spent a tremendous amount of time with my son teaching him how to be ... Not like me is how I taught him to be.lol
More like my parents and how I want to be. So far he is picture perfect except the few things I sucked at teaching him.uhhga
Busting my but to undo the couple bad things I taught him . hopefully he'll listen like always

Re: Troubled child? [Re: Lockjaw] #4071499
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Hoggin said it best. Also, if you’re still living in my house you’re never too old for an azz whooping.



Re: Troubled child? [Re: Lockjaw] #4071505
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And yes if you can get him into infantry in marine core they'll undo the ADD in him.
My son is way to level headed and smart to be in infantry in Marines.tried to tell him he was to smart but now he has listened

Not knocking you or your son at all I promise but the trouble people that show up in infantry in Marines learn how to be or at least slow there roll and listen cause it gets not fun pretty quick being the screw up of the bunch
Especially when you lose something in the desert and the whole battalion has to stand in formation until 3:00 am 6 hrs later until you find it.....you find out quick how to act when you got Marines supposed to be on airplane going home for leave .

Re: Troubled child? [Re: hoggin] #4071510
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Originally Posted by hoggin
I know I’ll take a beating but

A. I think add adhd is probably real and way over diagnosed and used as an excuse and I’ve proven it
B. I wrote the book you’re reading with my middle son until one day I beat his ass until my wife got between us. ADD/ADHD cured instantly and I dared him to call anyone cause when I get outta jail I’d finish what I started

All 3 of my younger boys were diagnosed and medicated for ADD/ADHD when they lived with their mother and were in terrible shape, terrible grades, kicked outta school over and over, disrespectful and general problems. I got custody of them when Austin was 10 and the twins were 7
The meds went away and the leather rolled in. By 9 the twins had completely turned around A students and all in on life, pleasures to be around although slightly hard headed like their mother. Both attended JCIB for Jr high and high school with honors Jt graduated early, Trevor graduates this year on schedule by choice as he to could has easily graduated. Austin was a challenge, better, but always something. He spent a year with nothing allowed in his room he didn’t wear or need to sleep. At 14 he decided to swing at me for “hitting” him with a belt. Belt down, ass whooping is on. Never had a disrespectful moment sense.
Austin is definitely slightly autistic and beyond intelligent read, write and speak 7 languages fluently self taught. Knows more about a computer than bill gates ever did, I’ve got friends who are professional IT guys that called him for help by the time he was 12. He now manages an IT department for the state of Florida and even though we disagree on a lot, we can be friends.
I’d say ass whoopin works

Waiting until mid to late teens to start would probably make things much more difficult but damn if I wouldn’t break a sweat trying

You took control before it was too late.

By the time they're 14-16 years old, if the job ain't done it's too late.

Armed Forces may be the only hope now.

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Re: Troubled child? [Re: Lockjaw] #4071615
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I wonder if maybe you could speak with the GF and her help? I’m no psychologist this is a guess on my part. I was raised and brought up under the same principles as Hoggin described. But the world changes and we have to change or approach to it. I just hope it all works out for the best for both of you. My only advice don’t give up on him to soon

Re: Troubled child? [Re: Lockjaw] #4071626
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Have you tried any different meds for the ADD/ADHD?
If he does not want to take them, what is his reason? Certain meds make them feel differently and possibly be the reason he doesn't want to take them.
I am not saying the meds or lack thereof are an excuse for the behavior. Prayers up.

Re: Troubled child? [Re: Lockjaw] #4071629
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The GF is part of the problem. He drives my younger son to school. He gets there early so he can hang out with her. Kicks my younger son out of truck so he and her can hang out. Rain, cold, it doesn't matter. She says nothing. Younger could sit in the back of the truck wasnt packed full of crap like he's a cat lady. Oh I'm gonna clean that out ... Yeah right.

Oldest thinks my truck is his because he puts gas in it. I took keys away last night. Xbox is in my gun safe. Told him he could have it back when his grades come up. He says he has to go to work, I said not my problem.

He's grounded until grades come up. He's on a 504 plan too. I've done everything I can do for him, at some point it's on him. I honestly just want the school the fail him and make him repeat 12th grade, but I guarantee you they won't do it. He probably has enough credits to graduate even with the 2 F's he has now.

I told him yesterday he is acting like a douche. Then it's all poor pitiful me. We don't ever do anything. Well if he would have gotten his hunter Ed done 3 years ago, he could hunt with me. If he was around and not making F's maybe he would not be grounded. It's like I'm just supposed to sit around and wait for him to be available.

He has the same me this mom does. Nothing is her fault and she's the queen of making excuses.


I hate to say it and feel bad, but getting him out and off my payroll just feels like being released from jail. He's my son and I love him, but not this part of him. I hate it.

Re: Troubled child? [Re: Lockjaw] #4071660
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Military would do him some good imo.


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Hard to do but sometimes you just have to put them out there on there own and let them figure it out.
I’ve been in your shoes man, not a good place to be.

Re: Troubled child? [Re: Lockjaw] #4071675
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Did he start balking at taking the ADD meds when the gf showed up in the picture?

I know another kid who quit taking his meds I suspect because of other side effects because it coincided with having a gf.


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Re: Troubled child? [Re: Lockjaw] #4071677
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I understand the frustration. I took my middle son down to the Sheriff's Dept and asked if they would go on and take mug shots and fingerprint him so that when he came up missing they would have them on file. He was fifteen. He ran away from home shortly thereafter. The photos came in handy. He came back about a week later. Somehow we got him through high school, took him to the USAF recruiter the day he turned eighteen. He retired at 38. I know what you are dealing with and its not good. Maybe the Spartans had the right idea how to deal with them.

Re: Troubled child? [Re: Lockjaw] #4071692
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No doubt that the military would do him good, but first off, you can't make him join nor do they have to take him. I don't know where we stand right now in need of servicemen, but I do know from talking to a friend that was a USMC recruiter that unless there is a pressing need in our volunteer military, they won't take those they deem a problem. It is certainly worth talking to him about though. Like others said, he'd come out a different person.


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If there hasn’t been any ass whoopings before now, 18 is a little late in my opinion. It’s time to consider “Tough Love” , when I was 18 my best friend was basically in the same situation as your son, rebellious, no respect, thought he knew what life was. His dad kicked him out and told him he was through bailing him out. He moved in with a friend, thought it was the coolest thing until reality set in. He couldn’t afford groceries, he resorted to going to Burger King and cramming his pockets with the ketchup packets, go home and make tomato soap out of it. It didnt take long for him to realize there are no free rides. He turned out to be a hard working family man.

Mark Twain said “When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.” wink


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