CNC, the stuff you’re proposing isn’t gonna change anything. It’ll just change when people do what they’re gonna do.

I agree with you on 1/3 of your statement. Corn needs to be banned.

I can only hope people lose interest. There’s absolutely too many “deer hunters” running around anyway. I don’t even call em deer hunters tho. They are just glorified shooters who can sit by a feeder and kill a deer. I’d like to get back to where deer hunting is a little difficult. That way most of these shooters lose interest. Not many left who really wanna hunt a deer. They just wanna shoot em.

I disagree.......Not gun hunting Feb 1-10 in north Alabama will make a difference......Taking back those 10 gun hunting days that were added onto the season length with the extension will add to that difference......Implementing tags will add to it even more......the gap between gun seasons will save more bucks for the rut…….and if we still feel the need to adapt further we can adjust doe days and the size of zone C.......

Oh yeah, a difference can be made with some simple changes......Like I said in a previous post......What I proposed at the beginning of the thread is just the basic framework that restructures and simplifies the season dates to be setup more like they probably should be…..Every one is right about gun hunting needing to end before Feb 10 across the northern 2/3’s of the state......especially now that we've added legalized baiting into the mix

CNC, every statement you’ve made about changes seems to have a root cause for the changes. And you’ve said it a bunch in your posts. Everything goes back to CORN. Corn is the reason you even came up with these proposed changes. Corn is the reason our populations are in decline in a lot of areas. I get that you don’t think you can win that battle. But that’s the battle that needs to be won. This other stuff is just a hope of overcoming the real problem of having corn all over the place.

Horsechitt.

Corn ain't never pulled a trigger.

Nope it hasn’t. But every Tom Dick and Harry that calls themselves deer hunters are pulling that trigger.

Season dates, bag limits, and baiting rules are just variables in an equation…..One is not really more right or wrong than the other……It’s the additive impact on the outcome that matters…..One of them needs adjusting…..Its ok if baiting stays as long as we adjust to compensate for it……I don’t think it’s a bad thing if folks prosper $$$ from the resource as long as we have a good overall long term management plan and don’t just milk the resource for everything its worth with no regards to the impact on quality. If everyone wants to bait then some changes need to be made in other areas.

CNC, your last statement proves what I’m saying. If everyone wants to bait we have to make changes. Changes are necessary because of corn. You can say it. It’ll be ok if the corn guys get mad at you

I guess we should ban guns based on your logic.

My logic is corn has brought out way too many hunters because it makes it easy. Easy turns into way more deer killed. That is where we are now in a lot of areas. Get rid of corn and you lose a lot of the so called hunters and deer numbers will come back up.

Too many have started baiting. Getting them to stop will be a tall task.

I can get behind this. The question is: how do we the power that be to listen?

Start writing letters. Go to CAB meetings. I’ve sent mine. They’re going to start hearing from a lot of ppl I think.

And that, CNC, is what I’ve been advocating. I am not against baiting. I am not against cell cams. I am not against February hunting “where needed”. I am certainly against the combination of ALL three under our current season structure.

Since were getting rid of bait, should hunting over a green field and an acorn filled oak bottom be banned?

Maybe we should have to wear an orange loin cloth and use spears to hunt deer?

If you honestly can’t see how legalized corn with the technological advances has impacted deer hunting with a 3 month gun season then I don’t know what else can be said.

Looks like yall have already completed this comment. I typically hunt very little between Thanksgiving and 1st of year. When I do its usually more to hang out with the guys.

Glad to see we're all on the same page now.....

The solution we are trying to solve for is lower deer take and better age structure, correct? Why not keep all methods legal and simply lower the deer take directly with a tag system like nearly every other state. You can hunt 1000 acres with heated blinds, a six month season, clover fields with corn feeders in the middle, thermal drones, night vision during daylight, 100 cell cams, a $15k side by side, $500 in hunting clothes in your ground blind, ozone, and a world class bird dog sitting with you, fully auto 100 round mag, but it doesn’t matter if you have one antler restricted buck tag and 1-2 antlerless tags.