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Re: NCAA football pissing me off [Re: Sasquatch Lives] #4067111
01/21/24 05:06 PM
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I think one way to at least slow all the transfer is to make the kids sit out of sports for the remainder of the current semester. It’s ridiculous to allow a kid to transfer 2 weeks into a semester. There is almost no chance any school would let a non-athlete start classes 2-3 weeks after the start of a semester. So how is it that these kids can suddenly start classes to be eligible to practice/play?

If you transfer in mid-January or transfer in April (post spring ball) then you start in May after the spring semester finals. Transfer after the start of the fall, then you start the following spring. That would at least allow the kids to get to know new coaches and would slow the NIL demands to give time to shop. I understand that would also allow the kids to shop other colleges and NIL $, but that is the trade off.

Re: NCAA football pissing me off [Re: Sasquatch Lives] #4067292
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They need to just start treating them like the pros. Student athlete sign 3 year contract for X amount of dollars with 20% paid year one, 30% paid year 2 and rest paid year 3. Bonus money if they stay senior year. Schools need to handle the contracts and cut out to rogue boosters and such. If student athlete is caught doing something against rules then hold the athlete responsible and not the school, 1 year ban from sports across all schools/divisions. With no play comes no pay for the athlete. In case of year or career ending injury then have some guaranteed money to be paid to the student and medical bills associated to be paid by school. If athlete transfers from school then have some type of buy-out amount written in the contract that is payed by receiving school and limit transfers to 1-2 only unless extenuating circumstances such as you transfer to a school and the head coach leaves but limit these circumstances, write them out in plain black and white, no grey areas to take advantage of.


Finally deported myself from the peoples republik of Kaliforkistan.
Re: NCAA football pissing me off [Re: lckrn] #4067361
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Originally Posted by lckrn
They need to just start treating them like the pros. Student athlete sign 3 year contract for X amount of dollars with 20% paid year one, 30% paid year 2 and rest paid year 3. Bonus money if they stay senior year. Schools need to handle the contracts and cut out to rogue boosters and such. If student athlete is caught doing something against rules then hold the athlete responsible and not the school, 1 year ban from sports across all schools/divisions. With no play comes no pay for the athlete. In case of year or career ending injury then have some guaranteed money to be paid to the student and medical bills associated to be paid by school. If athlete transfers from school then have some type of buy-out amount written in the contract that is payed by receiving school and limit transfers to 1-2 only unless extenuating circumstances such as you transfer to a school and the head coach leaves but limit these circumstances, write them out in plain black and white, no grey areas to take advantage of.



you are onto something .... a step further- Money gets doled out weekly/ bi-weekly/ monthly based on an annual "salary" ( not a 100% lump sum paid to the player/ families/agents/hanger ons/ etc).. Kid might not ever see any of it in that case. Figure out what fair annual distribution from collective deal is and help them understand this is how everyone else gets paid, and if you are not good enough to play in the NFL, this is what you will have to learn to live as well. Teach them what it is like to live on a paycheck like everyone else- at least that is a useful lesson for most of these guys unlike philosophy. Collective money never leaves the school. if you hit the portal, the money set aside for your "deal" goes back to the collective. if you do stay, when you get a degree from said university , if there is a balance in your collective account, remainder gets distributed to player.
Let them move freely among team if they want, but NIL given by alumni/donors needs to stay with school it was intended to benefit.


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Re: NCAA football pissing me off [Re: Stickers] #4067545
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Originally Posted by Stickers
Originally Posted by lckrn
They need to just start treating them like the pros. Student athlete sign 3 year contract for X amount of dollars with 20% paid year one, 30% paid year 2 and rest paid year 3. Bonus money if they stay senior year. Schools need to handle the contracts and cut out to rogue boosters and such. If student athlete is caught doing something against rules then hold the athlete responsible and not the school, 1 year ban from sports across all schools/divisions. With no play comes no pay for the athlete. In case of year or career ending injury then have some guaranteed money to be paid to the student and medical bills associated to be paid by school. If athlete transfers from school then have some type of buy-out amount written in the contract that is payed by receiving school and limit transfers to 1-2 only unless extenuating circumstances such as you transfer to a school and the head coach leaves but limit these circumstances, write them out in plain black and white, no grey areas to take advantage of.



you are onto something .... a step further- Money gets doled out weekly/ bi-weekly/ monthly based on an annual "salary" ( not a 100% lump sum paid to the player/ families/agents/hanger ons/ etc).. Kid might not ever see any of it in that case. Figure out what fair annual distribution from collective deal is and help them understand this is how everyone else gets paid, and if you are not good enough to play in the NFL, this is what you will have to learn to live as well. Teach them what it is like to live on a paycheck like everyone else- at least that is a useful lesson for most of these guys unlike philosophy. Collective money never leaves the school. if you hit the portal, the money set aside for your "deal" goes back to the collective. if you do stay, when you get a degree from said university , if there is a balance in your collective account, remainder gets distributed to player.
Let them move freely among team if they want, but NIL given by alumni/donors needs to stay with school it was intended to benefit.



I like both of those ideas, but it almost sounds too common sense to ever be adopted. It's like the lottery or pot legalization, once the "higher ups" get involved they will find a way to FV&*ck it all up beyond recognition.

If the NCAA was worth the money they get paid they would have figured all this out before they ever implemented any of this stuff.

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Re: NCAA football pissing me off [Re: Sasquatch Lives] #4067781
01/22/24 11:43 AM
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You know I was watching one of the NFL games where they scroll the players across the bottom of the screen and they say which college they played at and realized beginning next year they are gonna be saying two or three different schools instead of one. Ridiculous. The NCAA sucks.

Re: NCAA football pissing me off [Re: Sasquatch Lives] #4067858
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Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
You know I was watching one of the NFL games where they scroll the players across the bottom of the screen and they say which college they played at and realized beginning next year they are gonna be saying two or three different schools instead of one. Ridiculous. The NCAA sucks.


I might be wrong but I think the NCAA didn’t want this. Remember a court ruling is what allowed it. I’m not saying they don’t suck. I think they do for multiple reasons but this ain’t all their fault it seems. Unless my memory is off and I totally don’t remember how it went down. If that’s the case then ignore this post

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