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Question for insurance people/ closed roads #4062359
01/16/24 08:18 AM
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I've heard that if you have a wreck, while driving on roads that the EMA has deemed impassible that your insurance won't pay for the wreck.

I have no plans of driving anywhere today, but I'd like to know, from some of our insurance agents, if that is indeed true.

I need to know that, from an employer perspective. I've never "made" anyone come to work when they thought the roads were dangerous, even to the point of knowing some of the guys were milking it for a day off, but I'd like to know the true legality of it.


If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Re: Question for insurance people/ closed roads [Re: FurFlyin] #4062368
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True.


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Re: Question for insurance people/ closed roads [Re: FurFlyin] #4062373
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In this case, its better to assume its true than to assume its false and find out.


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Re: Question for insurance people/ closed roads [Re: FurFlyin] #4062379
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I am also following this closely. We talked about this issue several times yesterday as my son was traveling home from Oklahoma. Several roads he had to travel on were closed.

Watching Closely!


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Re: Question for insurance people/ closed roads [Re: FurFlyin] #4062391
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I have been an insurance agent for 31 years and no policy I have ever sold or read said anything about an exclusion for driving on a closed road. Some "non standard" policies have an exclusion if you are committing a crime but I've never seen that used to exclude coverage for driving on a closed road. However, if they say the road is closed due to weather it is best not to drive on it obviously.

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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
True.

Not true with USAA. No such exclusion in our policy.

Re: Question for insurance people/ closed roads [Re: FurFlyin] #4062404
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Here’s the question I have
Can you get ticketed for traveling a closed road and is it closed if officials call it impassable or does it have to be deemed a closed road?


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Re: Question for insurance people/ closed roads [Re: SwampHunter] #4062408
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Originally Posted by SwampHunter
I have been an insurance agent for 31 years and no policy I have ever sold or read said anything about an exclusion for driving on a closed road. Some "non standard" policies have an exclusion if you are committing a crime but I've never seen that used to exclude coverage for driving on a closed road. However, if they say the road is closed due to weather it is best not to drive on it obviously.


Thank you!


If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Re: Question for insurance people/ closed roads [Re: FurFlyin] #4062413
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Not true. Been in insurance claims industry for over 30 yrs. Now, you will be charged with an at fault accident if you wreck your car and file a claim.

Re: Question for insurance people/ closed roads [Re: SwampHunter] #4062416
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Originally Posted by SwampHunter
I have been an insurance agent for 31 years and no policy I have ever sold or read said anything about an exclusion for driving on a closed road. Some "non standard" policies have an exclusion if you are committing a crime but I've never seen that used to exclude coverage for driving on a closed road. However, if they say the road is closed due to weather it is best not to drive on it obviously.


Not hijacking this thread-Glad to see you posting on here! Hope things are well in the Swamp! Sure do miss the stories of the hunts in the Swamp. Take care,,, B


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Re: Question for insurance people/ closed roads [Re: FurFlyin] #4062427
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Good advice (from the professionals)


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Re: Question for insurance people/ closed roads [Re: globe] #4062430
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Originally Posted by 3toe
Not true. Been in insurance claims industry for over 30 yrs. Now, you will be charged with an at fault accident if you wreck your car and file a claim.

Originally Posted by globe
Good advice (from the professionals)


Thanks!


If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Re: Question for insurance people/ closed roads [Re: FurFlyin] #4062435
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Me and the wife were wondering the same thing this morning. Thankfully our employers both said stay home. Of course I have a company truck so if they told me to go to work it’s their vehicle I’d be playing bumper cars in


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Re: Question for insurance people/ closed roads [Re: FurFlyin] #4062436
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In order to be considered closed I'm assuming the road is marked as closed or barricaded?

Currently all roads in Madison, Limestone County are considered impassable. Does that mean if you get in a wreck your insurance won't cover you?

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State farm told me as long as your insurance is paid up they have to cover it. Roads closed or not.. their example was what if a family member had to go to the hospital on a closed road and wrecked.Of course they will cover it.

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Re: Question for insurance people/ closed roads [Re: cartervj] #4062483
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Originally Posted by cartervj
Here’s the question I have
Can you get ticketed for traveling a closed road and is it closed if officials call it impassable or does it have to be deemed a closed road?


I received a ticket for passing cones a few years back. No road closure sign or anything just 3 cones that you could easily drive through. State Trooper stated Alabama doesn't have enough funding to be able to supply road closure signs on all roads that cones are the same as road closed signs.

Re: Question for insurance people/ closed roads [Re: 163dm] #4062484
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Originally Posted by 163dm
In order to be considered closed I'm assuming the road is marked as closed or barricaded?

Currently all roads in Madison, Limestone County are considered impassable. Does that mean if you get in a wreck your insurance won't cover you?


Read the replies above, from the insurance agent and the claims adjuster.


If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Re: Question for insurance people/ closed roads [Re: 44MAG] #4062556
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Originally Posted by 44MAG
Originally Posted by cartervj
Here’s the question I have
Can you get ticketed for traveling a closed road and is it closed if officials call it impassable or does it have to be deemed a closed road?


I received a ticket for passing cones a few years back. No road closure sign or anything just 3 cones that you could easily drive through. State Trooper stated Alabama doesn't have enough funding to be able to supply road closure signs on all roads that cones are the same as road closed signs.

Yeah, i dont trust anything ANY state trooper says. Like last year when i got my ticket…he said “i have this road posted at 45mph”. I went back and looked. There is not a speed limit sign ON THAT ROAD, period. State troopers are the rule making up, most arrogant forms of law enforcement there is. But hey, they can drive as fast as they want on THEIR roads. Sorry to de-rail.


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Re: Question for insurance people/ closed roads [Re: gman] #4062560
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Originally Posted by gman
Originally Posted by 44MAG
Originally Posted by cartervj
Here’s the question I have
Can you get ticketed for traveling a closed road and is it closed if officials call it impassable or does it have to be deemed a closed road?


I received a ticket for passing cones a few years back. No road closure sign or anything just 3 cones that you could easily drive through. State Trooper stated Alabama doesn't have enough funding to be able to supply road closure signs on all roads that cones are the same as road closed signs.

Yeah, i dont trust anything ANY state trooper says. Like last year when i got my ticket…he said “i have this road posted at 45mph”. I went back and looked. There is not a speed limit sign ON THAT ROAD, period. State troopers are the rule making up, most arrogant forms of law enforcement there is. But hey, they can drive as fast as they want on THEIR roads. Sorry to de-rail.


I get what you’re saying but I’ve been told by several the posted speed limit is for ideal conditions, not adverse conditions. If it’s not posted it depends if it’s a county road or divided 4 lane and there are laws dictating speed limits for those roads. Now whether a judge upholds that or not depends.

We were friends with a guy that was a judge and he told of several instances where he thru out tickets because of the way posted speed limit signs were located on said road.


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Re: Question for insurance people/ closed roads [Re: gman] #4062679
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Originally Posted by gman
Originally Posted by 44MAG
Originally Posted by cartervj
Here’s the question I have
Can you get ticketed for traveling a closed road and is it closed if officials call it impassable or does it have to be deemed a closed road?


I received a ticket for passing cones a few years back. No road closure sign or anything just 3 cones that you could easily drive through. State Trooper stated Alabama doesn't have enough funding to be able to supply road closure signs on all roads that cones are the same as road closed signs.

Yeah, i dont trust anything ANY state trooper says. Like last year when i got my ticket…he said “i have this road posted at 45mph”. I went back and looked. There is not a speed limit sign ON THAT ROAD, period. State troopers are the rule making up, most arrogant forms of law enforcement there is. But hey, they can drive as fast as they want on THEIR roads. Sorry to de-rail.



I thought in the state of AL that if there is not a sign with a posted speed limit that the default limit is 45mph?


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