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DOT number question #4044618
12/22/23 06:26 PM
12/22/23 06:26 PM
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Alabaster, AL
Darrylcom Offline OP
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I recently got a DOT number for my company. It’s because I have a new customer in GA and I deliver a couple times a month in a rental truck. Ryder won’t let me cross state lines without a DOT number. I carry cargo that I own and am not for hire, and I don’t own any trucks. I usually have one guy sometimes 2 that drive the truck.
Now, I’ve been getting emails 3 times a day and phone calls from all these ppl wanting to get me compliant. I paid the UCR fee and I have the signs with the numbers for the door. What else do I really need? Should I really hire one of these companies that call me? The trucks I rent already have Ryders DOT on the door so should I display mine over theirs or along with theirs? The whole situation seems weird. Any help will be greatly appreciated. If it’s too much to type please pm and I’ll send you my cell number. Thanks

Re: DOT number question [Re: Darrylcom] #4044641
12/22/23 07:18 PM
12/22/23 07:18 PM
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Montgomery, Alabama
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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No.
Go through the state for your number and put it on your truck.


It be's that way sometimes.

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Re: DOT number question [Re: Darrylcom] #4044642
12/22/23 07:19 PM
12/22/23 07:19 PM
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Montgomery, Alabama
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I don’t know about the numbers already on the truck though. That would be a question for the DOT.


It be's that way sometimes.

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Re: DOT number question [Re: Darrylcom] #4044656
12/22/23 07:47 PM
12/22/23 07:47 PM
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I'm pretty sure you have to display it, and I also think that requires the driver to have a B-CDL. I'm not 100% sure on either of those. We have ours on magnets for the doors, and it also says "Not For Hire."


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Re: DOT number question [Re: Darrylcom] #4044661
12/22/23 07:56 PM
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You should have your signs on the truck that state. Operated by abc supplies with your dot number
Don’t hire anyone that calls you, they haven’t got a clue what you need to be compliant
Now to operate any commercial vehicle that crosses state lines you are considered a motor carrier, you need a drug testing consortium, dot supervisor training, maintenance plan in writing even if it just says that Ryder is responsible and notifies you when scheduled maintenance is required based on their maintenance schedule
If you travel over 100 air miles from home for more than 30% of your driving or business you’ll need elogs and if not you’ll need a logbook anytime you do travel outside that 100 miles
Issue your drivers a dot handbook and make them sign for it

Most of this won’t come into play until you get audited and you will, especially if your truck is involved in an accident that requires 1 or more vehicles to be towed from the scene or requires medical treatment
Then if you’re not prepared, it’s gonna be expensive

Last edited by hoggin; 12/22/23 08:03 PM.
Re: DOT number question [Re: hoggin] #4044750
12/22/23 10:04 PM
12/22/23 10:04 PM
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Pelham
Ben2 Offline
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Originally Posted by hoggin
You should have your signs on the truck that state. Operated by abc supplies with your dot number
Don’t hire anyone that calls you, they haven’t got a clue what you need to be compliant
Now to operate any commercial vehicle that crosses state lines you are considered a motor carrier, you need a drug testing consortium, dot supervisor training, maintenance plan in writing even if it just says that Ryder is responsible and notifies you when scheduled maintenance is required based on their maintenance schedule
If you travel over 100 air miles from home for more than 30% of your driving or business you’ll need elogs and if not you’ll need a logbook anytime you do travel outside that 100 miles
Issue your drivers a dot handbook and make them sign for it

Most of this won’t come into play until you get audited and you will, especially if your truck is involved in an accident that requires 1 or more vehicles to be towed from the scene or requires medical treatment
Then if you’re not prepared, it’s gonna be expensive

This is correct

Re: DOT number question [Re: Darrylcom] #4044794
12/22/23 11:14 PM
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Also need to check into an ifta tag if crossing state lines.

Re: DOT number question [Re: Ben2] #4044837
12/23/23 01:53 AM
12/23/23 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Ben2
Originally Posted by hoggin
You should have your signs on the truck that state. Operated by abc supplies with your dot number
Don’t hire anyone that calls you, they haven’t got a clue what you need to be compliant
Now to operate any commercial vehicle that crosses state lines you are considered a motor carrier, you need a drug testing consortium, dot supervisor training, maintenance plan in writing even if it just says that Ryder is responsible and notifies you when scheduled maintenance is required based on their maintenance schedule
If you travel over 100 air miles from home for more than 30% of your driving or business you’ll need elogs and if not you’ll need a logbook anytime you do travel outside that 100 miles
Issue your drivers a dot handbook and make them sign for it

Most of this won’t come into play until you get audited and you will, especially if your truck is involved in an accident that requires 1 or more vehicles to be towed from the scene or requires medical treatment
Then if you’re not prepared, it’s gonna be expensive


This is correct


Well, it is… but. What’s the GVWR of the Ryder? 10,001-26,000 lbs? Over 26,000lbs? If over, it’s all of the above and more. If it isn’t over, then it isn’t as complicated, especially if you limit yourself to one of the air mile set of rules. It’s still a written program to setup including training, inspection reports, medical cards, backup logbooks (just in case the driver can’t abide by the air mile rules), driver files, and more but no CDLs and no random drug testing.. Written documentation is a must to pass audit. For example, the air mile rules puts limits on a drivers “on duty hours” to stay with the exemption. How could you show an auditor that driver was good to make that run on that day? You need evidence of the driver’s hours. We created a form that the drivers fill out each week. A driver’s timesheet. Its only purpose is documenting when they were on the job the previous seven days.

Get a handbook and start reading. You don’t likely need one of the billion cold callers to help. We aren’t over 26,000 and operate under the 150 air mile exemption at all times. It’s manageable and a necessary evil for us. Funny thing is, our commercial vehicle usually gets driven under 5,000 miles a year and it’s old enough to not require elogs. Better stop now or I’ll get my soap box out and start complaining about how complicated they make it and how a lot of the requirements don’t really make the roads any safer.

Last edited by 4Tigers; 12/23/23 01:54 AM.
Re: DOT number question [Re: Darrylcom] #4044840
12/23/23 04:33 AM
12/23/23 04:33 AM
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Chattanooga, Tennessee
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Your driver have a DOT physical? Had a local company kinda similar story as yours going from Chattanooga to Georgia and one of their drivers got a ticket from Georgia highway patrol for not having DOT health card. They sent like 10 guys to the clinic at same time for DOT physicals, made for a busy day.


Finally deported myself from the peoples republik of Kaliforkistan.
Re: DOT number question [Re: Darrylcom] #4044847
12/23/23 06:04 AM
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Yep IF your driver holds a CDL & crosses state lines they are required to carry medical cards . Have to renew every 2 yrs as well . No card needed for intrastate only interstate driving

Last edited by hamma; 12/23/23 06:06 AM.
Re: DOT number question [Re: Ben2] #4044850
12/23/23 06:33 AM
12/23/23 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ben2
Originally Posted by hoggin
You should have your signs on the truck that state. Operated by abc supplies with your dot number
Don’t hire anyone that calls you, they haven’t got a clue what you need to be compliant
Now to operate any commercial vehicle that crosses state lines you are considered a motor carrier, you need a drug testing consortium, dot supervisor training, maintenance plan in writing even if it just says that Ryder is responsible and notifies you when scheduled maintenance is required based on their maintenance schedule
If you travel over 100 air miles from home for more than 30% of your driving or business you’ll need elogs and if not you’ll need a logbook anytime you do travel outside that 100 miles
Issue your drivers a dot handbook and make them sign for it

Most of this won’t come into play until you get audited and you will, especially if your truck is involved in an accident that requires 1 or more vehicles to be towed from the scene or requires medical treatment
Then if you’re not prepared, it’s gonna be expensive

This is correct




This is a scam( by our government)to get more money out of people who work!

Re: DOT number question [Re: Darrylcom] #4044904
12/23/23 08:18 AM
12/23/23 08:18 AM
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Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
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The chits a damn Joke. And you ain't alone Darryl, the azzhats have been constantly emailing us at all times of the day and night for the past 2 years, i done told one bastage just last week this chits harassment. Once ya clear up in issue with one, then Kimberly (or now it's Chase) will start emailing ya, then ya have that stopped for maybe 6 months, another will start, all this for 2 14" foot box trucks smdh. Gonna shoot ya a Pm Darryl


How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom?
Everyone. All of them...

Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!

Re: DOT number question [Re: hoggin] #4044970
12/23/23 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by hoggin
You should have your signs on the truck that state. Operated by abc supplies with your dot number
Don’t hire anyone that calls you, they haven’t got a clue what you need to be compliant
Now to operate any commercial vehicle that crosses state lines you are considered a motor carrier, you need a drug testing consortium, dot supervisor training, maintenance plan in writing even if it just says that Ryder is responsible and notifies you when scheduled maintenance is required based on their maintenance schedule
If you travel over 100 air miles from home for more than 30% of your driving or business you’ll need elogs and if not you’ll need a logbook anytime you do travel outside that 100 miles
Issue your drivers a dot handbook and make them sign for it

Most of this won’t come into play until you get audited and you will, especially if your truck is involved in an accident that requires 1 or more vehicles to be towed from the scene or requires medical treatment
Then if you’re not prepared, it’s gonna be expensive

Let me add, you need to create a fmsca clearinghouse account and link it with your fmsca portal and run all of your drivers through it.


Super Predator
Re: DOT number question [Re: lckrn] #4045078
12/23/23 01:32 PM
12/23/23 01:32 PM
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Madison County
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Originally Posted by lckrn
Your driver have a DOT physical? Had a local company kinda similar story as yours going from Chattanooga to Georgia and one of their drivers got a ticket from Georgia highway patrol for not having DOT health card. They sent like 10 guys to the clinic at same time for DOT physicals, made for a busy day.


🤣 Years ago we found out about medical cards from the TN State Troopers.

Re: DOT number question [Re: Darrylcom] #4045207
12/23/23 06:07 PM
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Hire someone who knows what they are doing or you will waste a pile of money on stuff these companies tell you you have to have. They got me good this year


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