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Re: Explain this one (shot placement)
[Re: Frankie]
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12/20/23 03:44 PM
12/20/23 03:44 PM
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Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,057 North AL
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Old Mossy Horns
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Matt ,,, was you there when the deer was shot I was running the camera. Bullet failure then With a partition? Horsechitt.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Explain this one (shot placement)
[Re: AU338MAG]
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12/20/23 03:53 PM
12/20/23 03:53 PM
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Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 15,864 Elmore County
Frankie
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Matt ,,, was you there when the deer was shot I was running the camera. Bullet failure then With a partition? Horsechitt. Well , it sure as hell didn't perform as it should . I'd call that bullet failure.
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Re: Explain this one (shot placement)
[Re: lefthorn]
#4042995
12/20/23 03:57 PM
12/20/23 03:57 PM
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Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 555 Eva, AL
hitek
4 point
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4 point
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I’m not criticizing the shot placement, but with a deer quartering, I was told one time to aim for the opposite shoulder. So you shoot that one in front of shoulder facing you and it should exit in off side shoulder You were giving some bad advice. Thats better advice for a quartered away shot, not a quartered to shot.
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Re: Explain this one (shot placement)
[Re: deadeye48]
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12/20/23 05:35 PM
12/20/23 05:35 PM
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Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 18,939 colbert county
cartervj
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Do you think the bullet could have possibly been "key holing"? I have a buddy, the almost exact thing happened to him 3-4 years ago, also in 308. Just a guess The rib deflection changed the trajectory of the bullet and instead of mushrooming it took on an extreme yaw that caused it to tumble much like a fmj will do and this is what caused the path of the bullet to change so drastically I’ve killed more deer than most folks ever will and I’ve not once had a bone deflect a 150+ grain projectile traveling at 2600+ fps. I’ve heard of ppl having it happen, but I’ve never personally seen it. They usually push right right through with great expansion. I guess that’s why I’m so confused. It’s not something I’ve seen in all my years of hunting. This is the best guesstimation I can think of for this The only thing that anyone can do besides guess is to chalk it up as one of those weird things that happens occasionally Ive had two strange things to happen like this One was on a deer and the other was on a black bear Both shots were broadside and 50yds +- On both animals the opposite shoulder looked to be disconnected and the leg flopping Found very little blood and never found either animal and I did have a dog on the deer later that day but unfortunately the bear was way up in the mountains and I quit after 3 days of searching Long ago when I shot partitions I’d heard of the bullet separating into two or tumbling because the core somewhat separated. Are they bonded now because I dont think they were back then. Congrats to you and your son staying after him.
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Re: Explain this one (shot placement)
[Re: Mbrock]
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12/20/23 11:34 PM
12/20/23 11:34 PM
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Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,831 Jasper
buckhunter2
10 point
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Congrats to the youngster!
I’m just glad y’all were able to recover the deer and also glad it was shot with a 308 and partitions (every boomers favorite combo)😁. Cause we both know if it had been a 243, it wouldn’t have simply been chalked up to 💩 happens . “Not enough gun” would have most certainly been culprit according to the masses.
You're only as good as your worst shot-
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Re: Explain this one (shot placement)
[Re: Frankie]
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12/21/23 12:14 AM
12/21/23 12:14 AM
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 17,199 Huntsville, AL
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Glad you found him. There are a lot of components that go into the manufacturing of a cartridge, could it be mis measured powder, a compromised primer, bad casing, or a bad bullet, I would think the bullet would be the suspect. I don't think any manufacturer could ever QC every cartridge. Glad you found him. There are a lot of components that go into the manufacturing of a cartridge, could it be mis measured powder, a compromised primer, bad casing, or a bad bullet, I would think the bullet would be the suspect. I don't think any manufacturer could ever QC every cartridge. I’ve heard of more issues with ammo the last couple years more than ever, I think with the rising cost of everything ammo manufacturers are just not making as good of a product they once did, just my theory Matt ,,, was you there when the deer was shot I was running the camera. Bullet failure then I’m going with a faulty bullet too. When I read your initial story of what happened my first thought was the bullet wasn’t made correctly, and everyone here beat me to it. I’m glad y’all recovered him!
Jesus... I hope you know Him personally like I do.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Proud crossbow hunter!
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Re: Explain this one (shot placement)
[Re: Mbrock]
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12/21/23 05:15 AM
12/21/23 05:15 AM
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Joined: Jun 2020
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TDog93
Booner
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Booner
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Nice deer Matt - great story - glad yall recovered - congrats
Dogs helped me on a couple few years back - helped me a lot - awesome to see good dogs track
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Re: Explain this one (shot placement)
[Re: Mbrock]
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12/21/23 08:24 AM
12/21/23 08:24 AM
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Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 12,104 Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
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Booner
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Congrats to your son, and glad you recovered the deer!
I had a bullet to deflect similar to that with a Contender years ago. It was 7x30 Waters and a Colorado bonded bullet, and most of it deflected the way yours did. Part of it broke off and went through the lungs, so the deer went down quickly, but I was not happy with that bullet performance.
Most everyone here will disagree, but I don't think you can beat a NBT from a 308. I have shot a bunch of deer with mine over the last 30 years and one of my bullets would have just blown a big hole through that deer. I don't like a NBT in a smaller caliber, and have seen deer lost with them in a 243 or such. I think using them in small calibers is what has given them a bad reputation. It produces dead deer in a 30 caliber at 308 or 30-06 velocity.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: Explain this one (shot placement)
[Re: Mbrock]
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12/21/23 08:27 AM
12/21/23 08:27 AM
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TDog93
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^^^ U showed big deer hole shot pics on here before from big deer w nbt - got me thinking bout it for my 308
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Re: Explain this one (shot placement)
[Re: Mbrock]
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12/21/23 09:50 PM
12/21/23 09:50 PM
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Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 9,808 North Jackson
ridgestalker
14 point
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14 point
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North Jackson
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Should have had a core-lokt and glad y’all found him.
"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
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