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Re: Wondering What Happening to all the Ducks? [Re: cartervj] #4041471
12/18/23 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cartervj
Originally Posted by Forrestgump1
The migration is due to everything up north freezing over correct? When was the last time that actually happened? And If it did freeze over within a couple days things thawed back out. Seems to me like the birds don’t have to go that far south anymore, more folks are hunting now than ever, and we have become exceptionally efficient. All that lends to the problem and the answer is somewhere amidst all of that.



I think there’s several migration patterns. One is earlier and pretty much ingrained and they make it down to Louisiana in a timely manner. The others are more weather influenced but has some timely pattern too. The last one is definitely weather related as the big ducks fluctuate with the hard freeze line. Locked up and can’t bounce back north. There is always open water somewhere and the stragglers cling to that. A friend hunted Maine for sea ducks and said the broadside ditches were full of mallards and black ducks but the water was open and running yet open waters were locked up.


HERE'S Your SIGN!!! Every Swingin' DICK has become a Wanna' Be Duck Hunter. Unless One is Born into or Married into th' HOLY Grounds of Family Land in Arkie....La. Oklahoma....Kansas.....Missouri.....Might want to think about Squirrels.

Re: Wondering What Happening to all the Ducks? [Re: Buckwheat] #4041535
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Originally Posted by Buckwheat
Originally Posted by cartervj
Originally Posted by Forrestgump1
The migration is due to everything up north freezing over correct? When was the last time that actually happened? And If it did freeze over within a couple days things thawed back out. Seems to me like the birds don’t have to go that far south anymore, more folks are hunting now than ever, and we have become exceptionally efficient. All that lends to the problem and the answer is somewhere amidst all of that.



I think there’s several migration patterns. One is earlier and pretty much ingrained and they make it down to Louisiana in a timely manner. The others are more weather influenced but has some timely pattern too. The last one is definitely weather related as the big ducks fluctuate with the hard freeze line. Locked up and can’t bounce back north. There is always open water somewhere and the stragglers cling to that. A friend hunted Maine for sea ducks and said the broadside ditches were full of mallards and black ducks but the water was open and running yet open waters were locked up.


HERE'S Your SIGN!!! Every Swingin' DICK has become a Wanna' Be Duck Hunter. Unless One is Born into or Married into th' HOLY Grounds of Family Land in Arkie....La. Oklahoma....Kansas.....Missouri.....Might want to think about Squirrels.



White Oak says it’s so. There’s many others but they’re the most prominent in FB.


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Re: Wondering What Happening to all the Ducks? [Re: whack-n-stack] #4044297
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All I know is this is the worst year I’ve hunted in 15 years. The spots on the river that usually hold wood ducks are empty. I’ve been 7 times this season and only killed 1 duck. Seen a grand total of 20. I don’t know if the el Nino weather caused it or what, but it’s been abysmal.

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Re: Wondering What Happening to all the Ducks? [Re: whack-n-stack] #4044456
12/22/23 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
All I know is this is the worst year I’ve hunted in 15 years. The spots on the river that usually hold wood ducks are empty. I’ve been 7 times this season and only killed 1 duck. Seen a grand total of 20. I don’t know if the el Nino weather caused it or what, but it’s been abysmal.

I don’t know what part of the state or river you are on, but we have been over hunting/ harvesting wood ducks in central Alabama for the last decade. Too many folks hunting, period.

Re: Wondering What Happening to all the Ducks? [Re: whack-n-stack] #4044483
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Back in the early 90's when Lowndes Mgt. area first opened and probably 15 years thereafter....I would go to the back area and park before daylight and go to one of the many Beaver Ponds on that place. NEVER saw over 1 or 2 other hunters in there. It was a sure thing for a wood-duck limit and the occasional Teal,Mallard,Gadwall. Went out there about 10 years ago....shooting was heard all over that series of ponds. Went to my old parking spot and counted 14 vehicles.....mostly teenagers and folks in there 20's hunting. Haven't been back......

Re: Wondering What Happening to all the Ducks? [Re: whack-n-stack] #4044500
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Simple ==== not cold enough North of us to drive them down and the northern hunters are doing every thing they can to short stop the ducks .Been like this before when it gets cold them will move south

Re: Wondering What Happening to all the Ducks? [Re: Buckwheat] #4044555
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Originally Posted by Buckwheat
Back in the early 90's when Lowndes Mgt. area first opened and probably 15 years thereafter....I would go to the back area and park before daylight and go to one of the many Beaver Ponds on that place. NEVER saw over 1 or 2 other hunters in there. It was a sure thing for a wood-duck limit and the occasional Teal,Mallard,Gadwall. Went out there about 10 years ago....shooting was heard all over that series of ponds. Went to my old parking spot and counted 14 vehicles.....mostly teenagers and folks in there 20's hunting. Haven't been back......

It’s only gotten worse.

Re: Wondering What Happening to all the Ducks? [Re: Forrestgump1] #4044789
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Originally Posted by Forrestgump1
Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
All I know is this is the worst year I’ve hunted in 15 years. The spots on the river that usually hold wood ducks are empty. I’ve been 7 times this season and only killed 1 duck. Seen a grand total of 20. I don’t know if the el Nino weather caused it or what, but it’s been abysmal.

I don’t know what part of the state or river you are on, but we have been over hunting/ harvesting wood ducks in central Alabama for the last decade. Too many folks hunting, period.



The 3 duck limit for woodies opens that right on up. I don’t know why 2 going to 3 mattered but it did. Most duck hunters I now that’s been at it for years noticed the same thing. My duck hole held around 200 during season and I rarely shot them. Guys with me would ask why not. Simple, we will kill the big ducks first and wait for the woodies later in the morning which would be 7:30 ish. Lack of big ducks and diminishing opportunities have changed things for the worse.

Sadly the new comers are happy killing a few mallards and whatever for the season.


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Re: Wondering What Happening to all the Ducks? [Re: whack-n-stack] #4044817
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The problem here is not the limits, but the sizes of the hunting parties. Groups of ten and twelve filling up truck beds. That became real popular with the younger generation. And here I am sounding negative. I thinks it’s great younger generations are getting into the outdoors, but not out of what it’s become.

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