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Re: baiting permit [Re: Mbrock] #4029472
12/01/23 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by jacobellis67
It amazes me that so many accept the creation of crimes and then selling permission to commit those crimes as being a legitimate role of our government.

The state constitution that was ratified just last year declares, "the sole object and only legitimate end of government is to protect the citizen in the enjoyment of life, liberty, and property, and when the government assumes other functions it is usurpation and oppression".

How does creating crimes and then selling permission to commit those crimes fit that declaration? Is that not the very definition of "usurpation and oppression" that appears in our state constitution?

Same way I feel. Selling a privilege for permission to break the law. It’s absolutely ridiculous.



yeah well hunters dont see it like that . all they see is a chance to bate legal. all this was just a way to get money and hunters ate it up . had it been some thing else theyd raised hell about it if they didnt like it . theyd be saying just what we think now . lol

Re: baiting permit [Re: Frankie] #4029529
12/01/23 10:15 PM
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Corn in Alabama is one of the most overrated hunting strategies in my opinion. It simply isn’t a primary source of food for deer so long as native browse is available which is nearly always the case in Alabama. Deer will grab a quick snack from it but you aren’t holding deer because of it and your neighbor with corn isn’t stealing your deer if you have good habitat. I have hunted low density properties where corn didn’t help and I have hunted high density properties where I see tons of deer with and without corn. Not to mention it is nearly useless when hunting for mature bucks in daylight.

Re: baiting permit [Re: Frankie] #4029530
12/01/23 10:16 PM
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Never bought one
Never will

Like mandatory CWD testing. I’m not participating.

Last edited by AlabamaSwamper; 12/01/23 10:16 PM.

BTR Scorer in NW Alabama

Re: baiting permit [Re: jacobellis67] #4029548
12/01/23 10:34 PM
12/01/23 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jacobellis67
It amazes me that so many accept the creation of crimes and then selling permission to commit those crimes as being a legitimate role of our government.

The state constitution that was ratified just last year declares, "the sole object and only legitimate end of government is to protect the citizen in the enjoyment of life, liberty, and property, and when the government assumes other functions it is usurpation and oppression".

How does creating crimes and then selling permission to commit those crimes fit that declaration? Is that not the very definition of "usurpation and oppression" that appears in our state constitution?


This is how I felt from day one while 90% of people were just happy they got to bait. The details matter. Either make baiting legal or dont. Selling privilege licenses with no conditions for approval other than paying the fee to do an otherwise illegal activity the state considers as unsportsmanlike and harmful to wildlife makes the original prohibition illegitimate. You will never see the state relax an existing game law again. After the baiting privilege permit we later got the hog and coyote night hunting permit. But I thought night hunting was dangerous, unfair chase, and needed to be outlawed? Apparently not if you buy a permit.

And don’t even get me started on lifetime license holders needing to keep buying permits, especially the pricy non resident permits if you ever move.

Re: baiting permit [Re: ALclearcut] #4029649
12/02/23 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ALclearcut
Corn in Alabama is one of the most overrated hunting strategies in my opinion. It simply isn’t a primary source of food for deer so long as native browse is available which is nearly always the case in Alabama. Deer will grab a quick snack from it but you aren’t holding deer because of it and your neighbor with corn isn’t stealing your deer if you have good habitat. I have hunted low density properties where corn didn’t help and I have hunted high density properties where I see tons of deer with and without corn. Not to mention it is nearly useless when hunting for mature bucks in daylight.

I agree with this until January when the food starts to dwindle in areas then they will hammer corn

Re: baiting permit [Re: Frankie] #4029714
12/02/23 08:17 AM
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Just wait until the rut is about to start. Back a dump trailer up to a SILO and fill it with corn. Drive it to your favorite food plots and spread it all over. Hunt those plots until you kill your number of deer wanted.


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