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Re: Hunting Rifle Opinion
[Re: BCLC]
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11/26/23 01:10 AM
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Life is too short to hunt with ugly guns.
Buy a nice rifle, kill stuff with it and enjoy it. AMEN I think some folks might underestimate how tough good walnut and deep blued steel really are. I’ve got a Supergrade that’s seen more hot loads than Monica Lewinsky and you’d never know it by looking at her.  Well. The horse is pretty dead now. But for my .02, I personally think that these days you get a more customized/accurate rifle than the older model guns. That’s just been my experience. There are so many weapons to chose from but hell, that’s half the fun. I am blessed to have a bunch of guns, old and new. Truth has already been said but you really don’t have to spend a lot on a good rifle. The optic is so much more important!! Lots of cool calibers too! The whole short mag and PRC deal has opened all sorts of opportunities in the past 20 years. I think I would look into the caliber I wanted first, then decide if I want wood/blue or synthetic/cerakote. You just can’t lose with Tikka, Sako, Steyr, and many others. I personally think that for the money, the Tikka T3X is about as good as it gets.
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Re: Hunting Rifle Opinion
[Re: Parkerwagner]
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11/27/23 04:14 PM
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Weatherby Mark V is best action ever designed.
No reason to buy a cheap rifle with a $1500 budget. You get what you pay for.... and in some instances you get less than what you pay for with rifles under $1500.
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Re: Hunting Rifle Opinion
[Re: Goatkiller]
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12/05/23 09:40 AM
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Georgia and Missouri
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Weatherby Mark V is best action ever designed.
No reason to buy a cheap rifle with a $1500 budget. You get what you pay for.... and in some instances you get less than what you pay for with rifles under $1500.
I would agree with this.
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Re: Hunting Rifle Opinion
[Re: Parkerwagner]
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12/13/23 04:16 AM
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Well, I'm f@#k56n wondering where you are hunting deer at 1000 to 1500 yards in this state? And why? And have you thought about maybe getting a little closer,I mean,shots that will kill at that range tend to hurt on both ends, and the most deer I have killed have been under 100 yards and again, why??
Yo money though if that's what you like, dead is dead. And I know the power of a faceplace pic or vid.!!!!! I would at least get a Christianson Arms and save up for a scope.
half of one, six dozen of the other
I can eat fifty eggs.........Cool Hand Luke
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Re: Hunting Rifle Opinion
[Re: brassmagnet]
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12/13/23 09:01 AM
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Well, I'm f@#k56n wondering where you are hunting deer at 1000 to 1500 yards in this state? And why? And have you thought about maybe getting a little closer,I mean,shots that will kill at that range tend to hurt on both ends, and the most deer I have killed have been under 100 yards and again, why??
Yo money though if that's what you like, dead is dead. And I know the power of a faceplace pic or vid.!!!!! I would at least get a Christianson Arms and save up for a scope. Um, if you're responding to the OP, he meant he wanted a rifle recommendation in the $1000-$1500 range, not a rifle to shoot at animals at 1k-1.5k yards.
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Re: Hunting Rifle Opinion
[Re: bill]
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12/13/23 12:37 PM
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Sooo,
As mentioned, the Kimber lineup and Winchester….if you want a CRF/Mauser/full length extractor action? If you want light as possible in that set?…Kimber, hands down. Some may require some tinkering to smooth out feeding, and have mag lengths on the short side. Customizable easily, and factory stocks might be the best production factory design out there.
Winchester? Gets you Fort Knox, built like a tank actions, with inherent smoothness and plenty of length for long loads, while paying a weight penalty vs the Kimber, though they’re only 3oz or so heavier than a 700 or other push feed action. Imminently customizable as well.
Or, did you want a standard, two lug push feed? 700s or some of the Howa, Bergaras, or maybe Christensen models?
Then there are Sakos and nicer model Tikkas that might be in your window. The newer Mauser M18s and Sauer 100s are very smooth/fast.
CZs as well.
We can guess all day until you tell us more about YOUR criteria. I’m sure myself and others would be glad for you to handle or even shoot some of the various stuff, if there’s an opportunity.
I’ve generally got various CRF and PF based guns around, from ultralight to classic. Not sitting on any euro bolt guns at the moment….though all sorts of stuff visits the red light district in my gun safe on a regular basis. Sound advice except I'd steer away from the Kimber unless I wanted to gamble on getting a decent shooter. I'm assuming their QC is still as substandard as its always been. Personally I'd go with the Mark V or Steyr and be confident that I had a solid shooter that would outlast me. Yes, Kimber QC is trash as always. I just purchased a new MK5 Accumark in 270WM and a Tikka TX3 Veil in 308 Win. I own several custom and semi-custom rifles. For the money you would be hard pressed to beat the upper end Tiika rifles.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
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Re: Hunting Rifle Opinion
[Re: UncleHuck]
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12/14/23 09:19 AM
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I continue to hear bad stuff about Kimber rifles and their accuracy.
I have mounted scopes on well over a dozen by now, and never touched one that wouldn't shoot into less than 1 MOA. Best one was a .280 Ackley that would cloverleaf at 100 yards with Nosler factory ammo. My personal experience is that they are as accurate as the Tikka rifles.
I hear bad stuff about any rifle or product that people start mainstream liking. People just can’t stand the success of other products or people anymore.
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Re: Hunting Rifle Opinion
[Re: Parkerwagner]
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12/14/23 10:36 AM
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Most of the Kimber rifles I have owned and shot would definitely out shoot any Tikka I have owned or shot.
So there is that. In the hands of someone who knows what they are doing at least. I shoot Tikkas all the time they sell a bunch up at Mark's to all the Topwaters. But when one of those comes to me and says they need help getting their gun dailed in you know what I say? Absolutely nothing. I have never told anyone I think their gun is a POS I just get it to shoot and hand it back to them with the ammo (handloads) and a target.
But back to Kimber's accuracy.... Look at it this way.... most of the guns of any manufacture that I shoot with accuracy issues the scope is loose. Usually the fact that is it crooked tips me off. Dumbasses are around every corner. And they post on the internet.
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Re: Hunting Rifle Opinion
[Re: Goatkiller]
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12/14/23 12:04 PM
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Most of the Kimber rifles I have owned and shot would definitely out shoot any Tikka I have owned or shot.
So there is that. In the hands of someone who knows what they are doing at least. I shoot Tikkas all the time they sell a bunch up at Mark's to all the Topwaters. But when one of those comes to me and says they need help getting their gun dailed in you know what I say? Absolutely nothing. I have never told anyone I think their gun is a POS I just get it to shoot and hand it back to them with the ammo (handloads) and a target.
But back to Kimber's accuracy.... Look at it this way.... most of the guns of any manufacture that I shoot with accuracy issues the scope is loose. Usually the fact that is it crooked tips me off. Dumbasses are around every corner. And they post on the internet. So you are saying you disagree ? This is my shocked face  I have a completely different body of experience with you on this topic. Not saying you're wrong with your body of data, but it's just not what I've experienced. Serious question though.... On average, how do your Tikka's group ? Over an inch ? Over 2 inches ? The only issue I am aware of that makes a Tikka "inaccurate is the recoil lug. But this issue happens most when people take the stock off to clean it and don't get it bolted up right for round 2. An easy fix. But I will give you this, the factory stocks on most Tikka's leave a lot to be desired. And I do love the Kimber stocks. They are just about perfect and are far superior to the Tikka's . Both wood and composite.
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Re: Hunting Rifle Opinion
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12/14/23 12:56 PM
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I do not own nor have I shot a Kimber. I really want a Montana, but they just don't fit me when I shoulder the rifle. The stock is as good as anything MacmIllan, Manners, etc. can make, it just doesn't fit me.
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Re: Hunting Rifle Opinion
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12/14/23 02:55 PM
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I do not own nor have I shot a Kimber. I really want a Montana, but they just don't fit me when I shoulder the rifle. The stock is as good as anything MacmIllan, Manners, etc. can make, it just doesn't fit me.
I get that too. Everything fits people differently. You have to find the right fit for you. That's why I swapped my last Tikka stock out with one from Mesa Precision. It fit much better. But I cannot understand why anyone would bash Tikka rifles. They are basically Sako's made in Finland with the high quality steel and great machine work. The only 2 beefs I have is the one for all magazine, and the cheap stock. the steel is upper level though. The other issues can be easily swapped out. Oh.... and they will shoot.
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Re: Hunting Rifle Opinion
[Re: BPI]
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12/14/23 04:02 PM
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I do not own nor have I shot a Kimber. I really want a Montana, but they just don't fit me when I shoulder the rifle. The stock is as good as anything MacmIllan, Manners, etc. can make, it just doesn't fit me.
I get that too. Everything fits people differently. You have to find the right fit for you. That's why I swapped my last Tikka stock out with one from Mesa Precision. It fit much better. But I cannot understand why anyone would bash Tikka rifles. They are basically Sako's made in Finland with the high quality steel and great machine work. The only 2 beefs I have is the one for all magazine, and the cheap stock. the steel is upper level though. The other issues can be easily swapped out. Oh.... and they will shoot. Thought you might like this: "To add insult to injury, the Tikka T3 is designed to be a cheap rifle to manufacture, but it is relatively expensive to purchase. (Ditto the disgraceful S&W I-Bolt!) These economy rifles retail for as much or more than a number of higher quality, better designed and better turned-out hunting rifles. Their success is a tribute to the ignorance of the modern American sportsman, intentionally fostered by the connivance of the outdoor media upon which they rely for information." Article quote came fromI read that a couple weeks ago and it stuck in my head because I knew there were many fans on this site.
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