I think it will be green amonia. Capturing N out of the atmosphere and converting H2O to amonia is my bet. My best friend has projects all over the world about to kick off. Shipping and Ag will be first. If they can get the energy part right I think we will see it adopted pretty quick.

Right now most of the amonia and anhydrous production is pretty toxic. Once green I think people will embrace it.

I was hoping by now we would all be tooling around the skies like the Jetsons...... Not in my lifetime I dont guess....

I know you can’t give the Toyota Mira away. Even Toyota doesn’t want them back. The hydrogen went from about $6-8 a unit to $30-35 a unit and it takes several units to fill it up. I think like 6-8. Not only that the fueling stations are few and far between. If hydrogen is the future it’s gotta get more cost effective for the common person.

As for the electric truck. We aren’t there yet. The Rivian and the ford lightening are the only two viable electric pickups that I’m aware of right now. I don’t think either is a good replacement for a combustible engine.

I agree 100% with both of you. With how they are being used and pushed now it’s stupid and I won’t buy one. All I was saying is that electric motors are superior to combustion in my opinion. But yes everything about the way this is being rolled out is stupid

Never forget this. They look good on the front end but come time for battery replacement u will realize what a dumass u were. That part not to mention they are too expensive to start with. I’ll never go that route but to each his own. It’s a fake ass fad period. These climate liers are behind it trying to scam as many as they can. Screw them and their evs.

Nope not at all. I'm thinking of someone who goes out west to places where they might be 100 miles from the nearest town and spends 10-14 days out in a tent relying on themselves to be self sufficient while hunting elk, moose or others wild game. That's not the type person I see driving an electric truck.
And for many people that have never been to BW.. it's nothing like many of the usual WMAs it's 90,000 acres of thick Hardwood forrest and Pine growth with deep hollers and gravel roads that run through some of it surrounded by an addition 900,000 acres of National Forrest land that is sparsely populated.
My point on this was it would be a bad place to need to charge your ride home

You charge it before you go just like you get gas. I'm not an EV fan but thinking you are gonna get stranded at BWWMA in an EV is silly

Glad I still drive my horse and chariot to the woods! *grunt grunt*

Now where did my wife put my loin cloth?

The biggest argument against electric vehicles that no climate change activist or liberal will acknowledge is the human trafficking and child labor that is used to mine cobalt in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Modern day slavery is used to mine there and they have more cobalt than all of the rest of the world combined. There is no such thing as a clean supply of Cobalt.

Let’s say that you are hunting this remote part and the forecast is calling for rain. But the bottom falls out and the roads are flooded and in bad condition. How does a EV handle that kind of situation? When the vehicle is put in extreme off road conditions does it use more power?

Yes, less range. My guess is if you are an EV person and want to hunt remote areas you'll just pack a generator.

Better yet what if gomer is driving and gets stuck in a mud puddle?

I bet he shoots a creedmore….

That's a given

Over 95% of the hydrogen made today is a byproduct of oil refining. There is currently no way to split water into hydrogen that doesn't take more energy than it yields.