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Re: Who was the guy? [Re: Lockjaw] #4004499
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Y’all sure do hate on this guy a lot……Looks like he’s pretty successful at whatever he’s doing.....Haters gonna hate I guess.

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Re: Who was the guy? [Re: Lockjaw] #4004515
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If i was the most illustrious potentate…id buy 10 or 15k acres..an i wouldnt just high fence it..id build concrete walls 40ft high with 20mm phalanx turrets….just in case somebody tried to hunt my property line…


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Re: Who was the guy? [Re: CNC] #4004534
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Originally Posted by CNC
Y’all sure do hate on this guy a lot……Looks like he’s pretty successful at whatever he’s doing.....Haters gonna hate I guess.



I take it you havent seen some of the temper tantrums this guy throws. They are pretty unbelievable.

Re: Who was the guy? [Re: CNC] #4004536
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Originally Posted by CNC
Y’all sure do hate on this guy a lot……Looks like he’s pretty successful at whatever he’s doing.....Haters gonna hate I guess.

I don’t have any beef with him, just how he markets himself. He’s been successful, and he’s very knowledgeable.

Re: Who was the guy? [Re: Lockjaw] #4004548
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So the dude is a male karen, who doesn't like you to question why he has some big deer on the properties he manages?

Check!!

Re: Who was the guy? [Re: Lockjaw] #4004568
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I think his name was Matt maybe ....Brock LOL.

Re: Who was the guy? [Re: Lockjaw] #4004591
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Say what you want about Buxton but he produces giants and the number of giants he is posting is nowhere near the 99% high fence number suggested above. He doesn't hide the fact that he has high fence clients. He is abrasive but people tend get jaded when they are constantly attacked, questioned, ridiculed about their lifelong work. He happens to be really good at the work he does. He does not like to be questioned, and he could handle that in a much better manner but, at this point in his life, he ain't changing. He may be slightly schizophrenic as he goes off on or blocks folks asking simple, legit questions. It is almost like he views any question as a threat. (I had an uncle like that and I am 99% sure had schizophrenia) I have been to a couple of his seminars. He shares a ton of knowledge and they are worth every penny. The things we learned at the seminar have saved us enough money in a year to pay for 2 of us to go to the seminar, if not more. Like him or not, he is one of the best in the business.

Re: Who was the guy? [Re: tsmith] #4004642
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Originally Posted by tsmith
Say what you want about Buxton but he produces giants and the number of giants he is posting is nowhere near the 99% high fence number suggested above. He doesn't hide the fact that he has high fence clients. He is abrasive but people tend get jaded when they are constantly attacked, questioned, ridiculed about their lifelong work. He happens to be really good at the work he does. He does not like to be questioned, and he could handle that in a much better manner but, at this point in his life, he ain't changing. He may be slightly schizophrenic as he goes off on or blocks folks asking simple, legit questions. It is almost like he views any question as a threat. (I had an uncle like that and I am 99% sure had schizophrenia) I have been to a couple of his seminars. He shares a ton of knowledge and they are worth every penny. The things we learned at the seminar have saved us enough money in a year to pay for 2 of us to go to the seminar, if not more. Like him or not, he is one of the best in the business.


Sorry but I'm going to have to challenge that last statement. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion and different people have different levels of knowledge about planting for and managing for wildlife. If you've been planting for and managing deer in the SE for a number of years already, and have got a pretty good grasp on it, his little seminars probably provide some insight or tips but dont provide much in the way of real, additional knowledge, that you havent already heard or read about before. If you're new to management and dont have a lot of experience planting and managing for wildlife, it probably seems like a wealth of knowledge is being conveyed. But the overriding fact is that that same knowledge Buxton is exposing you too is available from hundreds, if not thousands of sources, and Buxton hasnt done any cutting edge research papers, been published, or had peer reviewed studies and he doesnt have a leg up or patent on anything.

It is a fact that 95% of his posted pictures are coming off of super large acreage, privately owned parcels, with a very large number of those being high fenced. Pictures of someone that attended his seminar, in a semi-decent 1/4 acre clover plot holding a 90 or 110" 8 point, dont impress or get people's attention or make them want to attend seminars. Pictures of 160 class bucks, taken inside an enclosure, but with the fence not showing in the picture, do.

I've never been to one of his seminars but does this sound familiar? He saved you some money, most likely by telling you, to reduce your annual planting cost while increasing the overall nutritional plane on your property by planting perennial clovers, particularly Durana Ladino and the reds, along with the highly deer preferred annual Berseem, and Fixation clovers, take soil samples and fertilize accordingly, get your Ph correct, the value of nitrogen fixation, as well as chemical management of plots, brush and invasives, etc. The local farmer or the guy running the local co-op, that has planted your area all his life, can probably help you just as much with that. As far as deer management, let me guess, he talked about camera surveys, setting reasonable harvest and management goals, maintaining good buck to doe ratios, herd age structure, and specifically buck age structure.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass but I've found in life that when someone gets offended and consistently overreacts to basic questions, it is generally sort of a self preservation/self protection measure and the reason they feel threatened or react that way is because they dont want to be exposed. If what he does and knows is so proprietary and so great, he should be open and willing to debate and support his views and his program with anyone. Fact is, he absolutely knows more than most of today's weekend warriors planting wheat and rye grass plots on Labor Day, but he doesn't know any more, and actually probably less, than the other 200 or so degreed wildlife biologists that graduate with masters degrees every year from Clemson, UT, Texas A&M, Uof F, MSU, and UGA that manage 1000s of exclusive properties across the SE and do the exact same thing that he does for a living. Fact is, he wants you to think that he's got the golden goose locked up in a pen, and you too can have that golden egg, but he's really nothing special and he's not doing anything special. He just wants people to believe he is and hire him to come up with a management plan for their properties and pay to attend his seminars....and that's why he doesnt tolerate being questioned about anything. There are at least 2 and maybe 3 guys on this forum, and I can give you a dozen names of others in the state that arent on here, that can do the exact same thing Buxton does, with the exact same results and the best part about it is that they aren't buttholes to deal with.

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Re: Who was the guy? [Re: abolt300] #4004932
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Originally Posted by abolt300
Originally Posted by tsmith
Say what you want about Buxton but he produces giants and the number of giants he is posting is nowhere near the 99% high fence number suggested above. He doesn't hide the fact that he has high fence clients. He is abrasive but people tend get jaded when they are constantly attacked, questioned, ridiculed about their lifelong work. He happens to be really good at the work he does. He does not like to be questioned, and he could handle that in a much better manner but, at this point in his life, he ain't changing. He may be slightly schizophrenic as he goes off on or blocks folks asking simple, legit questions. It is almost like he views any question as a threat. (I had an uncle like that and I am 99% sure had schizophrenia) I have been to a couple of his seminars. He shares a ton of knowledge and they are worth every penny. The things we learned at the seminar have saved us enough money in a year to pay for 2 of us to go to the seminar, if not more. Like him or not, he is one of the best in the business.


Sorry but I'm going to have to challenge that last statement. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion and different people have different levels of knowledge about planting for and managing for wildlife. If you've been planting for and managing deer in the SE for a number of years already, and have got a pretty good grasp on it, his little seminars probably provide some insight or tips but dont provide much in the way of real, additional knowledge, that you havent already heard or read about before. If you're new to management and dont have a lot of experience planting and managing for wildlife, it probably seems like a wealth of knowledge is being conveyed. But the overriding fact is that that same knowledge Buxton is exposing you too is available from hundreds, if not thousands of sources, and Buxton hasnt done any cutting edge research papers, been published, or had peer reviewed studies and he doesnt have a leg up or patent on anything.

It is a fact that 95% of his posted pictures are coming off of super large acreage, privately owned parcels, with a very large number of those being high fenced. Pictures of someone that attended his seminar, in a semi-decent 1/4 acre clover plot holding a 90 or 110" 8 point, dont impress or get people's attention or make them want to attend seminars. Pictures of 160 class bucks, taken inside an enclosure, but with the fence not showing in the picture, do.

I've never been to one of his seminars but does this sound familiar? He saved you some money, most likely by telling you, to reduce your annual planting cost while increasing the overall nutritional plane on your property by planting perennial clovers, particularly Durana Ladino and the reds, along with the highly deer preferred annual Berseem, and Fixation clovers, take soil samples and fertilize accordingly, get your Ph correct, the value of nitrogen fixation, as well as chemical management of plots, brush and invasives, etc. The local farmer or the guy running the local co-op, that has planted your area all his life, can probably help you just as much with that. As far as deer management, let me guess, he talked about camera surveys, setting reasonable harvest and management goals, maintaining good buck to doe ratios, herd age structure, and specifically buck age structure.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass but I've found in life that when someone gets offended and consistently overreacts to basic questions, it is generally sort of a self preservation/self protection measure and the reason they feel threatened or react that way is because they dont want to be exposed. If what he does and knows is so proprietary and so great, he should be open and willing to debate and support his views and his program with anyone. Fact is, he absolutely knows more than most of today's weekend warriors planting wheat and rye grass plots on Labor Day, but he doesn't know any more, and actually probably less, than the other 200 or so degreed wildlife biologists that graduate with masters degrees every year from Clemson, UT, Texas A&M, Uof F, MSU, and UGA that manage 1000s of exclusive properties across the SE and do the exact same thing that he does for a living. Fact is, he wants you to think that he's got the golden goose locked up in a pen, and you too can have that golden egg, but he's really nothing special and he's not doing anything special. He just wants people to believe he is and hire him to come up with a management plan for their properties and pay to attend his seminars....and that's why he doesnt tolerate being questioned about anything. There are at least 2 and maybe 3 guys on this forum, and I can give you a dozen names of others in the state that arent on here, that can do the exact same thing Buxton does, with the exact same results and the best part about it is that they aren't buttholes to deal with.



Love him or hate he is successful at what he is doing

Yes that info is all readily available, maybe it’s his ability to compile and present the information that makes him successful
Greenfields are nothing more than glorified cover crops. He seems to remove the labels and plants generics

I don’t know the guy but do follow him on FB. I’ve never read the comments but what he’s presented works, and works very well for him.
I do know he sells out seminars and evidently says the right things to the right people.


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Re: Who was the guy? [Re: Lockjaw] #4004976
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Not hating him or his success . I applaud anyone who is successful that is doing it morally and ethically. He does comes across as a jerk and full of himself. In my experience most of the time that someone is that sensitive and defensive about simple questions , it’s usually an indicator that they’ve got something to hide.

Re: Who was the guy? [Re: Lockjaw] #4005001
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Great Post Abolt300. 👍

Re: Who was the guy? [Re: abolt300] #4005098
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Originally Posted by abolt300
Originally Posted by tsmith
Say what you want about Buxton but he produces giants and the number of giants he is posting is nowhere near the 99% high fence number suggested above. He doesn't hide the fact that he has high fence clients. He is abrasive but people tend get jaded when they are constantly attacked, questioned, ridiculed about their lifelong work. He happens to be really good at the work he does. He does not like to be questioned, and he could handle that in a much better manner but, at this point in his life, he ain't changing. He may be slightly schizophrenic as he goes off on or blocks folks asking simple, legit questions. It is almost like he views any question as a threat. (I had an uncle like that and I am 99% sure had schizophrenia) I have been to a couple of his seminars. He shares a ton of knowledge and they are worth every penny. The things we learned at the seminar have saved us enough money in a year to pay for 2 of us to go to the seminar, if not more. Like him or not, he is one of the best in the business.


Sorry but I'm going to have to challenge that last statement. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion and different people have different levels of knowledge about planting for and managing for wildlife. If you've been planting for and managing deer in the SE for a number of years already, and have got a pretty good grasp on it, his little seminars probably provide some insight or tips but dont provide much in the way of real, additional knowledge, that you havent already heard or read about before. If you're new to management and dont have a lot of experience planting and managing for wildlife, it probably seems like a wealth of knowledge is being conveyed. But the overriding fact is that that same knowledge Buxton is exposing you too is available from hundreds, if not thousands of sources, and Buxton hasnt done any cutting edge research papers, been published, or had peer reviewed studies and he doesnt have a leg up or patent on anything.

It is a fact that 95% of his posted pictures are coming off of super large acreage, privately owned parcels, with a very large number of those being high fenced. Pictures of someone that attended his seminar, in a semi-decent 1/4 acre clover plot holding a 90 or 110" 8 point, dont impress or get people's attention or make them want to attend seminars. Pictures of 160 class bucks, taken inside an enclosure, but with the fence not showing in the picture, do.

I've never been to one of his seminars but does this sound familiar? He saved you some money, most likely by telling you, to reduce your annual planting cost while increasing the overall nutritional plane on your property by planting perennial clovers, particularly Durana Ladino and the reds, along with the highly deer preferred annual Berseem, and Fixation clovers, take soil samples and fertilize accordingly, get your Ph correct, the value of nitrogen fixation, as well as chemical management of plots, brush and invasives, etc. The local farmer or the guy running the local co-op, that has planted your area all his life, can probably help you just as much with that. As far as deer management, let me guess, he talked about camera surveys, setting reasonable harvest and management goals, maintaining good buck to doe ratios, herd age structure, and specifically buck age structure.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass but I've found in life that when someone gets offended and consistently overreacts to basic questions, it is generally sort of a self preservation/self protection measure and the reason they feel threatened or react that way is because they dont want to be exposed. If what he does and knows is so proprietary and so great, he should be open and willing to debate and support his views and his program with anyone. Fact is, he absolutely knows more than most of today's weekend warriors planting wheat and rye grass plots on Labor Day, but he doesn't know any more, and actually probably less, than the other 200 or so degreed wildlife biologists that graduate with masters degrees every year from Clemson, UT, Texas A&M, Uof F, MSU, and UGA that manage 1000s of exclusive properties across the SE and do the exact same thing that he does for a living. Fact is, he wants you to think that he's got the golden goose locked up in a pen, and you too can have that golden egg, but he's really nothing special and he's not doing anything special. He just wants people to believe he is and hire him to come up with a management plan for their properties and pay to attend his seminars....and that's why he doesnt tolerate being questioned about anything. There are at least 2 and maybe 3 guys on this forum, and I can give you a dozen names of others in the state that arent on here, that can do the exact same thing Buxton does, with the exact same results and the best part about it is that they aren't buttholes to deal with.


I agree with this. I am grateful to you guys who have helped me along my journey to improve my lease.

Re: Who was the guy? [Re: Lockjaw] #4005115
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I dont know what he talks about at his seminars but from what I've read from folks who have attended, most of them seem well satisfied with it.....I dont know if I've read a negative comment saying it was a waste of money or something like that.


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Demaris and Strickland provide basically the same info in their Strategic Harvest System book. Couple that with their Deer Lab work, Craig Harper’s early successional habitat work, his first book is out of print but a new version is due out next year and worth every penny for the herbicide tables, and you about have it covered. You can then go to the past episodes of the AgPHD podcasts for soil/fertility information.

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