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How Do You See the Government's Role? #3985491
09/25/23 11:47 AM
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This is a spin off of the Bill Maher thread.

What do you think the government should be responsible for in our lives and the affairs of state?

Personally I think the government's role should be basically limited to:

1. Protecting our property rights.
2. Protecting our natural rights of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
3. Build and maintain necessary infrastructure that may be too big for private business.
4. Provide for the collective defense of our borders.
5. Collect the minimum taxes necessary to fund those responsibilities.

Basically uphold the Constitution and that's about it.

We were doing pretty good at that until Franklin Roosevelt took over and tried to turn us in to a quasi-Socialist state and we've been paying for it ever since.

Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: Irishguy] #3985496
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I agree with you.

Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: Irishguy] #3985505
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I believe the governments role is clearly spelled out in the constitution. What we have now is the result of special interests perverting that language

Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: Irishguy] #3985511
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Military and that's all, everything else should fall to states.
States roads that's all ,everything else should fall to local
Local- police and schools, that's it everything else should fall to individuals
Individuals- take care of yourself! Don't make your problems everyone elses!!

Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: Irishguy] #3985513
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It was Lincoln who sewed the seeds when he preserved the geography at the expense of the founding principles.


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Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: Irishguy] #3985525
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Defend our country and protect our rights, that's all.

My job to protect myself and family, local police to help, if they're there at the time.

Church, family, friends, if I need help.

Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: Irishguy] #3985574
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Defense of country against foreign and domestic enemies and upkeep of infrastructure.

Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: Irishguy] #3985578
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Our Constitution must be protected and kept solvent no matter what the cost and most importantly make sure the laws of the land are obeyed and enforced....Our Republic must be saved ... Principles mean nothing if the three branches of Government are not put in their place ...the Legislative, the Executive and the Judicial but, I do have high have hopes for the Supreme court and it's justices.

Having Sovereign borders,,, it's been said if we don't have borders we don't have a country... The rest of the world stands within their borders while the radical Dems and RIno's are doing their best to keep our borders open, whats worse they've shown they simply don't give a damn.

I watched a you tube video the other day,,, having no border gets us each and every migrant bequeathed with $2000 almost instantly when they cross over, give their fake names or show their fake papers and $2,000 a month when they get an address. They might not even need an address just a bank account. They're crossing over by the thousands each day. How in the hell are we supposed to support this kind of growth. Not going to happen.... the U.S. is over 32 trillion in debt and Biden wants to have a perpetual funding account for the Ukrainians. This type of governance is madness, it's insanity on the largest scale, it can't be sustained.

Limited Government ... Separation of Powers,, Federalism ,,Checks and Balances,, Republicanism,, Individual Rights .... these remaining principles mean nothing if the three branches of Government are not reigned in and made to do their job. The Democrats must not be allowed to keep the white house after the final count of ballots come November and in midterms of 26 we must take back the Senate and keep the house, they mustn't be allowed to get away with cheating , maybe we should cheat but harder than the dems if we want to save the country, The Dems mustn't rule.

Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: Irishguy] #3985629
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Grossly overreaching.



"Why do you ask"?

Always vote the slowest path to socialism.







Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: Irishguy] #3985640
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Essentially, I just want a military and about one delegate from each state paid minimum wage that meets once a year to determine how to make the government have even less of a impact on our everyday lives.

Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: Irishguy] #3985661
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Originally Posted by Irishguy
This is a spin off of the Bill Maher thread.

What do you think the government should be responsible for in our lives and the affairs of state?

Personally I think the government's role should be basically limited to:

1. Protecting our property rights.
2. Protecting our natural rights of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
4. Provide for the collective defense of our borders.
5. Collect the minimum taxes necessary to fund those responsibilities.

Basically uphold the Constitution and that's about it.

1913 is the year this all ended: Federal Reserve and the Federal Income Tax


"The misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing... compared to the misery of not being exploited at all."

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Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: Irishguy] #3985666
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I agree with Irish


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Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: Irishguy] #3985832
09/25/23 07:34 PM
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Glenn Beck would have a lot to say about Woodrow Wilson at this point.

To answer the question would be as minimal as necessary.
What we have is a convoluted crony capitalistic system setup up to appease whichever side is in power

There is no dismantling the situation. It is designed to keep growing and folks getting in the way will be dealt with

Good old mafia at work. Or maybe cartel like eventually


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Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: Irishguy] #3985863
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I’ve been a Dave Rubin fan for his interviews



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Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: Backwards cowboy] #3985974
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Originally Posted by Backwoods cowboy
Military and that's all, everything else should fall to states.
States roads that's all ,everything else should fall to local
Local- police and schools, that's it everything else should fall to individuals
Individuals- take care of yourself! Don't make your problems everyone elses!!

Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: Dixiepatriot] #3986020
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Originally Posted by Dixiepatriot
It was Lincoln who sewed the seeds when he preserved the geography at the expense of the founding principles.


Yup, ole Abe was the first American tyrant. Slavery should have never existed but trashing the Constitution and killing 700K Americans wasn't the answer.

Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: RidgeRanger] #3986032
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Originally Posted by RidgeRanger
Originally Posted by Dixiepatriot
It was Lincoln who sewed the seeds when he preserved the geography at the expense of the founding principles.


Yup, ole Abe was the first American tyrant. Slavery should have never existed but trashing the Constitution and killing 700K Americans wasn't the answer.


He paid for it in Ford's Theater.

Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: Irishguy] #3986264
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Less is more


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Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: Irishguy] #3986415
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Re: How Do You See the Government's Role? [Re: Dixiepatriot] #3986553
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Originally Posted by Dixiepatriot
It was Lincoln who sewed the seeds when he preserved the geography at the expense of the founding principles.

Exactly! Nothing he wouldn’t have trampled on or destroyed to preserve the “union”. Been on the downhill slide ever since.

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