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Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? #3893425 04/09/23 03:13 PM 04/09/23 03:13 PM
Joined: May 2010 Posts: 5,912 Cullman C CKyleC OP (Can't Keep It Up...)
CKyleC OP (Can't Keep It Up...) C Joined: May 2010 Posts: 5,912 Cullman	I have a Retay 20ga that I bought a couple years ago that I am just now starting to get set up. I got side tracked by .410's. Anyhow, the factory rail is too high. Would you go with the Sumtoy rail or the Meadow Creek rib mount? "In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: CKyleC] #3893426 04/09/23 03:19 PM 04/09/23 03:19 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 62 Pike County S seminole1 spike
seminole1 spike S Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 62 Pike County	Sumtoy...all day , every day. Go Noles and Roll Tide!

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: CKyleC] #3893432 04/09/23 03:34 PM 04/09/23 03:34 PM
Joined: Mar 2015 Posts: 4,851 AL Gobble4me757 12 point
Gobble4me757 12 point Joined: Mar 2015 Posts: 4,851 AL	Sumtoy x2 2017 Team Aldeer Turkey Contest Champion 2018 Team Aldeer Turkey Contest Champion

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: CKyleC] #3893439 04/09/23 03:47 PM 04/09/23 03:47 PM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 14,588 Tuscaloosa Co. N N2TRKYS Booner
N2TRKYS Booner N Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 14,588 Tuscaloosa Co.	Never Sumtoy 83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: CKyleC] #3893466 04/09/23 04:38 PM 04/09/23 04:38 PM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 4,048 Sylacauga doecommander things that make you go hmmmmmmm
doecommander things that make you go hmmmmmmm Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 4,048 Sylacauga	Sumtoy sent me the wrong mount for my Retay and never would send me the correct one after several messages saying he would make it right. doecommander out...........................

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: CKyleC] #3893496 04/09/23 05:39 PM 04/09/23 05:39 PM
Joined: Sep 2022 Posts: 362 The Flatwoods B Buckshot77 4 point
Buckshot77 4 point B Joined: Sep 2022 Posts: 362 The Flatwoods	The sumtoy is much lower than a rail and pic mount. I like the sight mounted as far back as possible. It makes you see less of the sight and its more like just a dot floating out there, so I wouldn't want it mounted on the rib. I have a speed bead on my 870 that I prefer to having it mounted up top.

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: N2TRKYS] #3893506 04/09/23 05:57 PM 04/09/23 05:57 PM
Joined: May 2010 Posts: 5,912 Cullman C CKyleC OP (Can't Keep It Up...)
CKyleC OP (Can't Keep It Up...) C Joined: May 2010 Posts: 5,912 Cullman	Originally Posted by N2TRKYS Never Sumtoy Then the Meadow creek? Or something else? "In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: CKyleC] #3893519 04/09/23 06:27 PM 04/09/23 06:27 PM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 14,588 Tuscaloosa Co. N N2TRKYS Booner
N2TRKYS Booner N Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 14,588 Tuscaloosa Co.	Originally Posted by CKyleC Originally Posted by N2TRKYS Never Sumtoy Then the Meadow creek? Or something else? I prefer the Burris base. 83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: CKyleC] #3893553 04/09/23 07:21 PM 04/09/23 07:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,428 Cullman, AL AUdeerhunter 10 point
AUdeerhunter 10 point Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,428 Cullman, AL	I have a Sumtoy mount on my 870 and I’ve been very happy with it!!!

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: CKyleC] #3893572 04/09/23 07:51 PM 04/09/23 07:51 PM
Joined: Jun 2019 Posts: 3,397 Sylvania Alabama Sandmtnslayer 10 point
Sandmtnslayer 10 point Joined: Jun 2019 Posts: 3,397 Sylvania Alabama	Burris makes a good one also but I like meadow creek Not all Indians were hunters some toted firewood

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: CKyleC] #3893789 04/10/23 08:28 AM 04/10/23 08:28 AM
Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 526 Rollin around here somewhere YB21 4 point
YB21 4 point Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 526 Rollin around here somewhere	My vote is Sumtoy. Posted this the other day in another thread, maybe it'll help. Top mount is the Burris 336, middle is a Sumtoy mount, Picatinny( /Weaver? Idk) on the bottom Last edited by youngbuck21; 04/10/23 08:31 AM.

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: CKyleC] #3893799 04/10/23 08:43 AM 04/10/23 08:43 AM
Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 6,095 Anniston, AL ikillbux ishootatbux
ikillbux ishootatbux Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 6,095 Anniston, AL	Sumtoy. The Meadow Creek thing precariously attached to the vent rib just seems gadgety, and the look is unattractive to me. We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: CKyleC] #3894083 04/10/23 06:50 PM 04/10/23 06:50 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 9,977 Hampton Cove foldemup 14 point
foldemup 14 point Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 9,977 Hampton Cove	The sumtoy is a cleaner look, but I like it as low as possible, so the marlin 336 for me If you want to always win, never play anyone better than you!

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: CKyleC] #3894124 04/10/23 08:11 PM 04/10/23 08:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,460 Marshall County Haybale bearded hen
Haybale bearded hen Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,460 Marshall County	I have the 336 and sumtoy. I prefer the 336 on guns that have to be drilled and tapped. On pretapped guns the sumtoy is the go to. "To God Be The Glory" "I'm in if it involves sticking my hand in a hole". Brent mashburn.

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: CKyleC] #3894137 04/10/23 08:40 PM 04/10/23 08:40 PM
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,178 Madison 3 3bailey3 10 point
3bailey3 10 point 3 Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,178 Madison	I like my Sumtoy.

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: CKyleC] #3894210 04/10/23 11:44 PM 04/10/23 11:44 PM
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 374 Albertville D doublefistful 4 point
doublefistful 4 point D Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 374 Albertville	Mainly a question here, but why do more folks not use the burris speed bead? I dont have any experience with sumtoy or meadow creek mounts but i have put a speed bead on my sbe1 12 ga and on my m2 20ga and both have performed well for me. I have read where some say they are flimsy but both of mine have been rock solid. Maybe different brand shotguns require a little different design and that is where some of the problems come from? Again, im not saying its better than any of the others. Just curious as to why it is almost never brought up?

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: Haybale] #3894276 04/11/23 08:28 AM 04/11/23 08:28 AM
Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 526 Rollin around here somewhere YB21 4 point
YB21 4 point Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 526 Rollin around here somewhere	Originally Posted by Haybale I have the 336 and sumtoy. I prefer the 336 on guns that have to be drilled and tapped. On pretapped guns the sumtoy is the go to.

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: doublefistful] #3894515 04/11/23 07:04 PM 04/11/23 07:04 PM
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Buckshot77 4 point B Joined: Sep 2022 Posts: 362 The Flatwoods	Originally Posted by doublefistful Mainly a question here, but why do more folks not use the burris speed bead? I dont have any experience with sumtoy or meadow creek mounts but i have put a speed bead on my sbe1 12 ga and on my m2 20ga and both have performed well for me. I have read where some say they are flimsy but both of mine have been rock solid. Maybe different brand shotguns require a little different design and that is where some of the problems come from? Again, im not saying its better than any of the others. Just curious as to why it is almost never brought up? Mine was a little flimsy on my 870, so I bedded it to the stock with bedding compound.

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: CKyleC] #3894522 04/11/23 07:17 PM 04/11/23 07:17 PM
Joined: Oct 2017 Posts: 1,133 Georgia H howl 6 point
howl 6 point H Joined: Oct 2017 Posts: 1,133 Georgia	Speed Bead is often reported to move around. Fine for open choke, but not for turkey choke. That's what they say anyhow. I was never interested in finding out firsthand because I don't want my sight mounted that low for shooting turkeys. SumToy can be mounted on the rib. I my rib drilled and tapped and a matching slot cut in the mount. I bedded it to the rib after I got it back. The Fastfire I have on there is kinda crunched from falling directly on a rock. Never have lost zero.

Re: Sumtoy or Meadow Creek? [Re: CKyleC] #3894706 04/12/23 08:09 AM 04/12/23 08:09 AM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 10,642 Santa Rosa/Conecuh hallb Booner
hallb Booner Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 10,642 Santa Rosa/Conecuh	Anybody use an aimpoint micro s-1 mounted on rib?

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