</a JR Holmes Oil Company </a Shark Guard Southeast Woods and Whitetail Mayer Insurance Services LLC
Aldeer Classifieds
18’ Car hauler utility trailer
by Jweeks. 05/20/24 06:08 PM
Nomad Leafy Pants
by JUGHEAD. 05/20/24 02:43 PM
Rolling Stones June 7 Atlanta
by zwick. 05/20/24 02:12 PM
Marlin model 336w micro-groove barrel 30-30
by MidnightRider. 05/20/24 01:33 PM
Polywood Table (missing parts)
by gastoka. 05/20/24 12:21 PM
Serious Deer Talk
Useful Gear
by AU338MAG. 05/20/24 06:40 PM
Springtime and refreshin' your Clorox stump
by Ridge Life. 05/19/24 08:29 PM
Tennessee
by ridgestalker. 05/18/24 07:18 AM
Research Update
by Ben2. 05/17/24 08:35 PM
For the Don’t Shoot Does Crowd
by marshmud991. 05/17/24 08:29 PM
May
S M T W T F S
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
Land, Leases, Hunting Clubs
Marengo County Club
by EarlPitts. 05/17/24 04:02 PM
Franklin county Al
by BigBuck10. 05/11/24 09:29 AM
Eastern Coosa County Hog
by Morris. 05/09/24 10:53 AM
Lowndes county club
by Doeslayer44. 05/07/24 10:11 AM
Looking for Turkey Hunting Land
by Nightwatchman. 05/06/24 01:46 PM
Who's Online Now
100 registered members (M48scout, knock him down, CNC, BigA47, HappyHunter, Sasquatch Lives, Davyalabama, Luxfisher, Stefan, NorthFork, dwaugh, Shadyj, ts1979flh, crenshawco, BuckRidge17, AU7MM08, MS_Hunter, Young20, jeffhhub, bhammedic84, outdoorguy88, Mansfield, CatfishJunkie, jwalker77, square, fish251, BC_Reb, sanderson, Rickster, Alb, Whild_Bill, BOFF, Sixpointholler, mcninja, jhardy, AU338MAG, stuball, hoggin, riflenut, m2ruger, Ten37, El_Matador, MountainTopHunter, sloughfoot, Turkeyneck78, GUT_SHOT, Gut Pile 32, trlrdrdave, canichols424, roll_tide_hunts, Safetyman, sawdust, SouthBamaSlayer, klay, JohnnyLoco, Peach, Mbrock, Joe4majors, COOTER, Snuffy, doc bar, Cactus_buck, Ar-Humter, jaydub12, Scout308, jawbone, Zzzfog, MidnightRider, G/H, BigBuck10, sj22, Bustinbeards, leroyb, 007, GoldenEagle, donia, Ray_Coon, Auburn_03, catdoctor, Chiller, mashburn, Dog, Rockstar007, GHTiger10, Ron A., Rainbowstew, weatherby, 13 invisible), 1,490 guests, and 0 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
Purple Martin Geolocator update: #3887141
03/30/23 08:41 AM
03/30/23 08:41 AM
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 39,457
Marshall County
FurFlyin Offline OP
Freak of Nature
FurFlyin  Offline OP
Freak of Nature
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 39,457
Marshall County
I posted several weeks ago that I had my first Purple Martin with a Geolocator attached to him, arrived back at my colony. The Martin was captured, the data from the Geolocator was download and extrapolated and the migration path is now on a map!

Banding Coalition of the Americas, Kyle Shepard and Emma Rhodes did all the work for this project. The have the proper permits and licenses. This information is mind boggling to me. Man has known for a long time that Purple Martins migrate from Brazil, the North America to nest, but we didn’t suspect that the bird would take one trek south, and a completely different route on his return, but that’s what he did.

He left my house last summer and his first stop was Louisiana. From there he crossed the Gulf of Mexico and landed in the Yucatán peninsula. From there he wandered down through Central America into the northern part of Brazil.

On his return, he “island hopped” on his way north, going between Jamaica and Haiti, then across Cuba, then back up through the peninsula of FL to arrive back on the same gourd rack, in my back yard, that he left from, last July.

Could you make that trip without a map or compass? I couldn’t. We think calling someone a ”bird brain” is a derogatory comment, but God instilled an intelligence into these creatures that we can’t or don’t, grasp.

The path on the left of the map is his southern migration, and the path on the right his his northern migration route.



[Linked Image]

Last edited by FurFlyin; 03/30/23 08:45 AM.

If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: FurFlyin] #3887143
03/30/23 08:45 AM
03/30/23 08:45 AM
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 10,672
Central, Al
Bustinbeards Online content
Booner
Bustinbeards  Online Content
Booner
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 10,672
Central, Al
Very cool to see it mapped out, interesting it took different routes. Wonder if it had to do with prevailing wind currents.


Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes
On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: FurFlyin] #3887146
03/30/23 08:48 AM
03/30/23 08:48 AM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 10,702
Santa Rosa/Conecuh
hallb Offline
Booner
hallb  Offline
Booner
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 10,702
Santa Rosa/Conecuh
That is pretty cool. Do they capture timings on how long their stops were in places, especially like how long did it spend in Brazil?

Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: FurFlyin] #3887147
03/30/23 08:49 AM
03/30/23 08:49 AM
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 3,597
Lower Alabama
Andalusia Offline
10 point
Andalusia  Offline
10 point
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 3,597
Lower Alabama
That really is amazing! I always thought they used some type of terrain mapping and they would follow certain points along the same route to go back and forth. Great information! God's work never ceases to amaze me!


"If you are the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room"

"How you do Anything, is how you do Everything"

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"
Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: FurFlyin] #3887148
03/30/23 08:51 AM
03/30/23 08:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 5,814
Hoover, AL
M48scout Online content
12 point
M48scout  Online Content
12 point
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 5,814
Hoover, AL
In addition to the intelligence part, it’s amazing to me that they can physically travel those distances over water. No food or water presumably until they hit land. I don’t understand how they have enough calories/energy in their little bodies to do to, and on top not dehydrate. Amazing creatures.

Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: FurFlyin] #3887153
03/30/23 09:03 AM
03/30/23 09:03 AM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,946
Andalusia, Covington County, A...
TexasHuntress Offline
14 point
TexasHuntress  Offline
14 point
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,946
Andalusia, Covington County, A...
That is super cool to be able to track them like that! But, I, too have wondered how they have the stamina to make those long flights between points of landing.


If you live to be a hundred, I want to live to be a hundred minus one day, so I never have to live without you.---Winnie the Pooh
Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: FurFlyin] #3887154
03/30/23 09:04 AM
03/30/23 09:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 3,597
Lower Alabama
Andalusia Offline
10 point
Andalusia  Offline
10 point
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 3,597
Lower Alabama
I am now curious to know if he takes the same route each year or can change it up as needed??

He may have flown with a group the first time going and returning and then uses same route??


"If you are the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room"

"How you do Anything, is how you do Everything"

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"
Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: FurFlyin] #3887156
03/30/23 09:11 AM
03/30/23 09:11 AM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,084
central alabama
J
JA Offline
pic perv
JA  Offline
pic perv
J
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,084
central alabama
Google says they fly between 31- 40 mph when travelling. That Gulf of Mexico leg looks close to 1000 miles. That would mean a non-stop flight of between 25 and 32 hours. How in the world???

Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: hallb] #3887160
03/30/23 09:16 AM
03/30/23 09:16 AM
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 39,457
Marshall County
FurFlyin Offline OP
Freak of Nature
FurFlyin  Offline OP
Freak of Nature
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 39,457
Marshall County
Originally Posted by hallb
That is pretty cool. Do they capture timings on how long their stops were in places, especially like how long did it spend in Brazil?


Yes, I will update again when I find out how much time it spent in each location.

Regarding the different paths. All I know to tell y’all right now is that they use constellations to navigate. I know in the spring that they definitely use cold fronts to help them make the push north. That’s a causal observation on my part over the past 20 years. When the migration is underway, I always have varying numbers of them show up after a cold front has passed. In the fall, they may just take the path of least resistance to get there. We don’t have cold fronts that make it far enough south in late summer to really help them move south.

This bird was the first one to return to the SE with a geolocator. Another landlord in GA had some installed as well, and her first bird returned with a geo last week. It took different paths in the fall and spring as well. It jumped from Pensacola to the Yucatán on the way down. It came back on a very similar route to mine this spring.


If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: Andalusia] #3887166
03/30/23 09:27 AM
03/30/23 09:27 AM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,231
Meridianville
DryFire Offline
14 point
DryFire  Offline
14 point
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,231
Meridianville
Originally Posted by Andalusia
That really is amazing! I always thought they used some type of terrain mapping and they would follow certain points along the same route to go back and forth.


Homing pigeons can be dropped off hundreds of miles from their home and released. They find their way back to their roost. Their brains have a built in GPS system not fully understood, The most popular theory is a two dimensional system. One part being small iron deposits in the inner ear which acts as a compass. The second part is a crude form of terrain memorization. The compass gets them close to where they want to be, then their memory kicks in for the final pinpoint location.

Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: FurFlyin] #3887172
03/30/23 09:31 AM
03/30/23 09:31 AM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 3,375
FL
daylate Offline
10 point
daylate  Offline
10 point
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 3,375
FL
That is really cool. I always enjoy watching flocks of geese pass overhead and marvel at the fact they started their journey from the desolate far northern tundra or beyond.

Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: FurFlyin] #3887175
03/30/23 09:38 AM
03/30/23 09:38 AM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 10,702
Santa Rosa/Conecuh
hallb Offline
Booner
hallb  Offline
Booner
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 10,702
Santa Rosa/Conecuh
I don't know if martins do something similar, but some Discovery channel or similar type show on birds migrating across large spans of ocean like that said they will get in the wind patterns and just drift and will actually go to sleep for a time. I bet the martins make that gulf crossing quicker than you think, that will be interesting to see on the timeline as well and the whole trip probably is much quicker than we can imagine also.

Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: Andalusia] #3887191
03/30/23 10:39 AM
03/30/23 10:39 AM
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 14,341
Hoover
F
Fattyfireplug Offline
Booner
Fattyfireplug  Offline
Booner
F
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 14,341
Hoover
Originally Posted by Andalusia
I am now curious to know if he takes the same route each year or can change it up as needed??

He may have flown with a group the first time going and returning and then uses same route??


Me too.


Character is not developed in moments of temptation and trial. That is when it is intended to be used.
Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: FurFlyin] #3887197
03/30/23 10:53 AM
03/30/23 10:53 AM
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 4,227
auburn
007 Online content
10 point
007  Online Content
10 point
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 4,227
auburn
I saw yours and the other persons posted on the Martin site. Very good, and downright amazing, information there. I wonder if any researchers has ever done it with any of the other neotropical migrants, such as warblers. Be very cool to see all the different migration paths they take. I’d imagine most species can’t make that cross ocean journey without stopping. Back when I was with the F&W service, we did census taking on migrants coming in. I’ve seen more than one bird lying on the beach at dauphin island “catching its breath”.


If you do the things you need to do when you need to do them then someday you can do the things you want to do when you want to do them.
Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: FurFlyin] #3887222
03/30/23 12:11 PM
03/30/23 12:11 PM
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 16,857
Banana Republic
jb20 Offline
Old Mossy Horns
jb20  Offline
Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 16,857
Banana Republic
Awesome


They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Ben Franklin
Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: FurFlyin] #3887238
03/30/23 12:59 PM
03/30/23 12:59 PM
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 15,958
Elmore County
Frankie Offline
Old Mossy Horns
Frankie  Offline
Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 15,958
Elmore County
Bird flying good little ways

Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: FurFlyin] #3887264
03/30/23 01:41 PM
03/30/23 01:41 PM
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 12,029
34°25'49.80"N 86°55'46.99"...
gman Offline
Booner
gman  Offline
Booner
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 12,029
34°25'49.80"N 86°55'46.99"...
Theres a lobster fisherman that does reels on instagram. He's forever more coming across small birds way out at sea. He said they land on the boat to catch their breath. I bet those birds land on anything and everything they can to catch their breath. Oil platforms, ships/boats...floating garbage...


The harder I practice, the luckier I get.
Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: FurFlyin] #3887269
03/30/23 01:47 PM
03/30/23 01:47 PM
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 21,454
HSV AL
jmudler Offline
Freak of Nature
jmudler  Offline
Freak of Nature
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 21,454
HSV AL
That is really special. Brings a whole new meaning to your username.


Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: FurFlyin] #3887270
03/30/23 01:49 PM
03/30/23 01:49 PM
Joined: Mar 2023
Posts: 20
Cleburne County
S
Swamp Captain Offline
spike
Swamp Captain  Offline
spike
S
Joined: Mar 2023
Posts: 20
Cleburne County
Amazing how they can make those flights over so much open ocean.

Re: Purple Martin Geolocator update: [Re: FurFlyin] #3887304
03/30/23 02:57 PM
03/30/23 02:57 PM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Middle TN
O
OldgoatTN68 Offline
3 point
OldgoatTN68  Offline
3 point
O
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 112
Middle TN
Always been amazed on what those little guys can do. Is there a good forum i can reference to learn do's and don'ts for setting up a few gourds?

Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4

Aldeer.com Copyright 2001-2024 Aldeer LLP.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1
(Release build 20180111)
Page Time: 0.182s Queries: 16 (0.030s) Memory: 3.2958 MB (Peak: 3.6021 MB) Zlib disabled. Server Time: 2024-05-20 23:52:16 UTC