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Re: Our idiot president is going to get us in war
[Re: deerman24]
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02/21/23 04:32 PM
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deadeye48
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He will not negotiate any kind of peace because that isnt good for investments or investors
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: Our idiot president is going to get us in war
[Re: deerman24]
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02/21/23 04:42 PM
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RidgeRanger
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If he doesn't bankrupt us first. Seems like every week he is giving away billions of dollars and all the ammo they want. I don't see Russia backing down so why not try to arrange some sort of peace deal instead of challenging Russia and getting lots of innocence folks killed. Just my opinion He’s a corrupt old idiot, illegitimate too. The idiots in DC pulling his strings are arrogant and drunk on the money and power. I sincerely hope these fools don’t get us into a nuke slinging contest with Russia. 2020 - present has proven that “freedom and democracy” being spouted by the deep state are really about money and power. There are no good guys in this conflict and the west has pushed it from the start.
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Re: Our idiot president is going to get us in war
[Re: RidgeRanger]
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02/21/23 04:43 PM
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If he doesn't bankrupt us first. Seems like every week he is giving away billions of dollars and all the ammo they want. I don't see Russia backing down so why not try to arrange some sort of peace deal instead of challenging Russia and getting lots of innocence folks killed. Just my opinion He’s a corrupt old idiot, illegitimate too. The idiots in DC pulling his strings are arrogant and drunk on the money and power. I sincerely hope these fools don’t get us into a nuke slinging contest with Russia. 2020 - present has proven that “freedom and democracy” being spouted by the deep state are really about money and power. There are no good guys in this conflict and the west has pushed it from the start. Bingo
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Re: Our idiot president is going to get us in war
[Re: deerman24]
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02/21/23 05:10 PM
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Skinny
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The day he got into office was the day the war started. It was planned from before the election. Hillary didnt win so they had to delay their war for a bit.
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Re: Our idiot president is going to get us in war
[Re: deerman24]
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02/21/23 05:45 PM
02/21/23 05:45 PM
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If he doesn't bankrupt us first. Seems like every week he is giving away billions of dollars and all the ammo they want. I don't see Russia backing down so why not try to arrange some sort of peace deal instead of challenging Russia and getting lots of innocence folks killed. Just my opinion As soon as Russia exits Ukrainian soil a peace deal can be made. Until then Russia is fighting a losing war. They cannot continue to sustain their current military losses without jeopardizing their own national security.
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Re: Our idiot president is going to get us in war
[Re: deerman24]
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02/21/23 06:41 PM
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I was listening to a documentary while driving today. WW1. As I'm listening to how the politicians and generals kept throwing away human lives in the tens of thousands with no regard. And not one of them is dodging bullets.
I'm not anti war. And certainly no coward. But I'm thinking if the politicians and general were put in harms way, the potential of future wars would drop dramatically. I don't know how they could move from point a to point b without taking a bullet in the back.
I've no problem risking my life to defend me and mine. Or to defend yours. But damn these politicians and decision makers who take no personal cost for their decisions.
Last edited by Fattyfireplug; 02/21/23 06:42 PM.
Character is not developed in moments of temptation and trial. That is when it is intended to be used.
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Re: Our idiot president is going to get us in war
[Re: Fattyfireplug]
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02/21/23 06:59 PM
02/21/23 06:59 PM
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I was listening to a documentary while driving today. WW1. As I'm listening to how the politicians and generals kept throwing away human lives in the tens of thousands with no regard. And not one of them is dodging bullets.
I'm not anti war. And certainly no coward. But I'm thinking if the politicians and general were put in harms way, the potential of future wars would drop dramatically. I don't know how they could move from point a to point b without taking a bullet in the back.
I've no problem risking my life to defend me and mine. Or to defend yours. But damn these politicians and decision makers who take no personal cost for their decisions. Right on the money.
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Re: Our idiot president is going to get us in war
[Re: DryFire]
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02/21/23 07:03 PM
02/21/23 07:03 PM
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Ukraine is going to get fighter jets. The call for it is gaining momentum throughout NATO. It takes years to train pilots and mechanics for fighter jets, so we'll likely send "unenlisted volunteers" to do that work.
Looks like China is going to offer more support to Russia. Iran and North Korea are already helping. India has been playing both sides, and will likely side with Russian oil if push comes to shove. Don't underestimate India, they are a superpower.
So... we have a rift forming between NATO and the top three military powers behind them. Sounds like a recipe for WW3 to me. Our fearless leaders will charge head on with no plan, because they won't be the ones dying. China has effectively conquered much of the Africa, the middle east, and Latin America, so this could turn into NATO vs the world.
We have the fanciest doodads, but we are outnumbered and have lost the ability to endure hardship. One of the first things that will happen in WW3 is we take out each other's satellites. Russia, India, and China have all demonstrated this capability on real satellites. We don't know much about it, but China has a weaponized satellite in orbit, probably made to take out other satellites. Without GPS, most of our fancy doodads are worthless. It will be hard men with a rifle and a compass that win WW3. I don't think we make enough of those anymore. If WW3 does happen, I'm guessing we loose
We should avoid this. Even if we win, it would be really bad. Letting Russia keep what they took in 2014 would give Putin a win to bring back home. Most of the Ukrainians there are pro-Russian too. Similar deals are how the vast majority of wars end in European history. It's either that, or total annihilation of the loser.
Last edited by redgineer; 02/21/23 07:22 PM.
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Re: Our idiot president is going to get us in war
[Re: DryFire]
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02/21/23 07:13 PM
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If he doesn't bankrupt us first. Seems like every week he is giving away billions of dollars and all the ammo they want. I don't see Russia backing down so why not try to arrange some sort of peace deal instead of challenging Russia and getting lots of innocence folks killed. Just my opinion As soon as Russia exits Ukrainian soil a peace deal can be made. Until then Russia is fighting a losing war. They cannot continue to sustain their current military losses without jeopardizing their own national security. Haven't you heard, Putin cannot be allowed to remain in power. Regime change wars have turned out great for us in the past, adding nukes to the mix will only make things better.
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Re: Our idiot president is going to get us in war
[Re: redgineer]
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02/21/23 07:20 PM
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[quote=DryFire] Haven't you heard, Putin cannot be allowed to remain in power. Regime change wars have turned out great for us in the past, adding nukes to the mix will only make things better. Don’t worry, some DC “think tank” PHDs have this.
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Re: Our idiot president is going to get us in war
[Re: deadeye48]
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02/21/23 07:21 PM
02/21/23 07:21 PM
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redgineer
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He will not negotiate any kind of peace because that isnt good for investments or investors That is correct Not only that, but a large war gives the government authoritarian power. The dems got a taste of it during the pandemic, and they will do anything to get it again.
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Re: Our idiot president is going to get us in war
[Re: redgineer]
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02/21/23 08:48 PM
02/21/23 08:48 PM
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Posts: 4,749 Heart of Dixie
Narrow Gap
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Ukraine is going to get fighter jets. The call for it is gaining momentum throughout NATO. It takes years to train pilots and mechanics for fighter jets, so we'll likely send "unenlisted volunteers" to do that work.
Looks like China is going to offer more support to Russia. Iran and North Korea are already helping. India has been playing both sides, and will likely side with Russian oil if push comes to shove. Don't underestimate India, they are a superpower.
So... we have a rift forming between NATO and the top three military powers behind them. Sounds like a recipe for WW3 to me. Our fearless leaders will charge head on with no plan, because they won't be the ones dying. China has effectively conquered much of the Africa, the middle east, and Latin America, so this could turn into NATO vs the world.
We have the fanciest doodads, but we are outnumbered and have lost the ability to endure hardship. One of the first things that will happen in WW3 is we take out each other's satellites. Russia, India, and China have all demonstrated this capability on real satellites. We don't know much about it, but China has a weaponized satellite in orbit, probably made to take out other satellites. Without GPS, most of our fancy doodads are worthless. It will be hard men with a rifle and a compass that win WW3. I don't think we make enough of those anymore. If WW3 does happen, I'm guessing we loose
We should avoid this. Even if we win, it would be really bad. Letting Russia keep what they took in 2014 would give Putin a win to bring back home. Most of the Ukrainians there are pro-Russian too. Similar deals are how the vast majority of wars end in European history. It's either that, or total annihilation of the loser. I agree with all You said except the part of We don’t make enough of those anymore. I agree that Men in this Country ain’t as tough or hard nosed and gritty as We used to be. This Country still makes them better than any other Nation IMO due to the simple fact of a lot of kids growing up shooting guns and hunting. There just really is not another Nation on Earth that has the culture that does that on a large scale except here in the USA. This all goes back to show just how genius Our Nations forefathers we’re in writing Our Constitution and protecting Our right to Bear arms with the 2nd Amendment.
Last edited by Narrow Gap; 02/21/23 09:14 PM.
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Re: Our idiot president is going to get us in war
[Re: OldgoatTN68]
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02/22/23 09:58 AM
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The idiot started a war the day he was sworn in. That war is against right minded Americans. He's just waiting on being directed to his next move. Gotta have his midday pudding and a diaper change first.
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