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Dog training collars #3739389
09/04/22 11:44 AM
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We have a puppy that’s about 10 months old. She’s so far the best dog I’ve ever owned and I couldn’t ask for a better family pup.

There are 4 things I can’t break her of.

1) swiping food off the counter
2) opening the trash
3) her going wild when she gets out of the fence
4) jumping up on people and kids whenever they first get to the house

What training or e collars have y’all used in the past and would recommend?

Re: Dog training collars [Re: dead_eye] #3739390
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i really like my Garmin 550, very easy to use but I use for my bird dog. Probably cheaper options. Jumping up is usually fixed with kneeing them every time they do it but you need others to also do it.


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Re: Dog training collars [Re: Andalusia] #3739396
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Originally Posted by Andalusia
i really like my Garmin 550, very easy to use but I use for my bird dog. Probably cheaper options. Jumping up is usually fixed with kneeing them every time they do it but you need others to also do it.



That’s the problem. I had her broke but when she goes to the vet, groomers, or other people they let her do it.

I get pissed because when I ask them to not they’re like “it’s ok, my dog does this all the time”. Damn agravating

Re: Dog training collars [Re: dead_eye] #3739397
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$400 is a little stout for me I think

Re: Dog training collars [Re: dead_eye] #3739400
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I had a dog that like swiping counters. Mousetraps fixed that quick.


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I figured it would be unless you are hunting him regularly.
I like the idea of a mousetrap!


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Re: Dog training collars [Re: dead_eye] #3739411
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Dogtra 1900s. Condition the dog to the collar is most important. The dog needs to know what he’s done wrong. The collar is not for you letting out frustrations. Training the dog will pay off. Bad habits are hard to stop. The dog has to be caught in the act. If he’s been in the garbage and you whip him. He has no idea what for.

Food on the counter. Dogs stays out of kitchen. Catch him in the act scold with a switch grab snout and tell him no.
Opening the trash. Catch him in the act and same as above.
Going wild. Puppy should out grow a lot of that. Let him out more often?
Jumping up on people. Kneeing up hitting him in the chest. You’ll have to set this up with a friend that doesn’t mind possible knocking the hell out of the dog. Just anyone who comes over will not want to do this. This one cause aggressiveness. The dog may think people will hurt it and show aggression. The dog may be skittish of people you will not know until tried.

Re: Dog training collars [Re: dead_eye] #3739413
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Tractor supply has some decent ones for not much more than $100 and you can get a warranty. They are not hunting grade (battery doesn't last, stimulation is not as strong and range out to 75 yard or so) but work for a yard dog. Remove it when not in use or it will cause sores. Also, make sure the points are on the side of the neck and tight enough that you can just get two fingers in the collar.

Re: Dog training collars [Re: dead_eye] #3739438
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Don’t think bad of me but dogs are animals and you have to keep it simple. I’ve stopped dogs from doing some of the things you’ve described. The jumping up on folks…. 3ft of water hose doubled up and placed across nose at just about as hard as you can swing it will stop that after about the 2nd go around. Maybe a refresher every now and again. That has worked on dogs from lab size to huge German Shepards. The getting in the trash. I had a fair sized trash can. Went I caught them messing with it. I’d stuff them in it head first and hold them in with a pillow so I wouldn’t get scratched. And kick/beat the fire out of the can. Most house dogs only took 1 treatment and they was scared to get close to it again but you really got to scare them.


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Re: Dog training collars [Re: dead_eye] #3739460
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I bought one for $30 off Amazon and it has worked perfectly! Whole different dog now, and we just use the warning tone or vibrate. Only used the shock part, maybe twice.

Re: Dog training collars [Re: dead_eye] #3739463
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I use the e collar educator but I also sent my dogs off to obedience school. They were trained with the collars they have. A world of difference it made. Well worth the money I spent.


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Re: Dog training collars [Re: dead_eye] #3739480
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A wise man once told me if you can't train a dog without a collar, you can't train one with a collar. Randomly pushing the red button without teaching is a good way to have a dog run out of the county.

Buy a collar but also follow a training program.

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Originally Posted by Fishduck
A wise man once told me if you can't train a dog without a collar, you can't train one with a collar.

I disagree with that. Having the time is as big a factor as the knowledge in my opinion. I simply didn't have the time to train mine so I sent them to school.
Originally Posted by Fishduck
Randomly pushing the red button without teaching is a good way to have a dog run out of the county.

Buy a collar but also follow a training program.

I do agree with the other parts, simply wearing a dog out with the collar will become punishment not education. The collar should only be used as a correction if they aren't listening AFTER they are trained.


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A collar can help a lot, but it can make a dog anxious if used improperly. Anxiety is probably the most difficult thing to break a dog of, so make sure you do it right.

Consistency is the key to dog training, no matter the gear. You may need to find people who will go along with your training regiment if they have your dog often.

If you or your family walks in the door excited to see her, they are training her to rush people at the door. I do not acknowledge or make eye contact with my dog until after I take a seat.

A 10 month old dog is going to get up to trouble. Don't let them get away with it, but also understand it's part of having a puppy.

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Re: Dog training collars [Re: dead_eye] #3739511
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Re: Dog training collars [Re: dead_eye] #3739582
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I use a PetSpy for both my pups who are 10 months old. Only shocked them once when about to get in the road; they haven’t ventured past the right of way since. I do frequently buzz them with the vibration just to get their attention when needed. They respond great to the vibration and tone. Seems like I paid around 80-90$ for two collars and the remote.

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My dog will practically put the collar on because she knows its time to go hunt!


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Re: Dog training collars [Re: dead_eye] #3739601
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I used this with both English labs that I had. This method and collar worked perfectly for those. The BMC that I had was a little more to work with to comply but in time it paid off.


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Re: Dog training collars [Re: MS_Hunter] #3739604
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Originally Posted by MS_Hunter
Originally Posted by Fishduck
A wise man once told me if you can't train a dog without a collar, you can't train one with a collar.

I disagree with that. Having the time is as big a factor as the knowledge in my opinion. I simply didn't have the time to train mine so I sent them to school.
Originally Posted by Fishduck
Randomly pushing the red button without teaching is a good way to have a dog run out of the county.

Buy a collar but also follow a training program.

I do agree with the other parts, simply wearing a dog out with the collar will become punishment not education. The collar should only be used as a correction if they aren't listening AFTER they are trained.


You sort of proved my point. IMHO the "school" trained the dog. You are reinforcing the training with the collar.

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I used a sport dog 400 to train most of my labs. I would second all of the above advice. Also add that breaking a dog from doing most of the things you listed isn’t that hard. Make the trash can and the counter hot and give ‘em a little nick when they touch it.

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