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Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: metalmuncher] #3699464
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Freeze that joker until you get some time

Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: metalmuncher] #3699470
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Do you have a whole brisket? Called a packer. Or just the flat, or just the point? This makes a huge difference on how to cook. A whole brisket will be 10+ pounds. 10 would be small and you can get to 15 easy. If you just have a flat, which is the lean section you are already at a big disadvantage.

I smoke them on a green egg frequently. Usually 230 to 240F and until a knife goes in like butter. We only cook whole packers because they are more forgiving. They can cook in 10 hours and sometimes 16 hours. I always put them on around 1030pm and pull them off the next day. At 160-165 I wrap in uncoated butcher paper. When done put them in a cooler to rest at least an hour. Slice against the grain and only what you are going to eat. Don’t spice it up for a beautiful plate presentation it will dry out.

Save the leftovers to make incredible chili.

Before going on the smoker, salt, pepper, garlic and onion powder.

Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: metalmuncher] #3699490
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I’ve done several unattended. Smoke for a few hours, wrap in double foil, place in turkey roasting pan, bake in oven at 225 for 12 hours. When done, unwrap, save the juice for sauce and cheese grits, put back in pan fat side up and set oven to broil for a couple minutes to make a pretty bark. Briskets are simple, low and slow then let rest in an ice chest for at least an hour before slicing. Your house will smell like a world class BBQ joint.

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Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: metalmuncher] #3699503
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Along with all the recommendations above...inject it!

Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: metalmuncher] #3699529
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Im listening, ya'll keep talking. 👍🏻😎

Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: metalmuncher] #3699561
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An overnight brine helps with a juicy final product. I generally use 1/2 c kosher salt, 1/2 c brown sugar (light or dark, whatever is on hand), bay leaves, peppercorn, Sid's gunpowder, onion powder, garlic powder, chili powder, pineapple juice, about 3/4 gallon of water.


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Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: metalmuncher] #3699562
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God did not create smokers and brisket to be left alone for 12 hours. It takes music, TV, and/or multiple games of cornhole and a cooler of cold beer to truly make a great brisket. grin

Put it in the oven at 225, with a foil tent. When you get home, fire up the smoker to give it the smoke flavor and finish it off. On the smoker, half the time unwrapped, the last half wrapped in parchment paper. You won't win any BBQ awards, but it works.

Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: hoggin] #3699565
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Originally Posted by hoggin
I did an awesome brisket today. I walked into Bartleys bbq in Grapevine Tx and said “Brisket plate please with baked potato casserole, street corn and cornbread with spicey sauce. It comes out right evert time


If you have the time, drive out to Justin and try 407 BBQ.

Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: tpageal] #3699697
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Originally Posted by tpageal
Brisket is not the easiest to smoke. Especially on a new smoker with no experience with it.

There’s probably twenty different ways to achieve a good end product. There’s a thousand opinions on how to achieve success with achieving a good end product.

The meat prep with rubs, mustard etc are really meant to break down the meat and fat. Sure, rubs add flavor but the breaking down the fibers of the meat is what you’re really trying to achieve.

The initial part of the cook will create a bark, starts the breaking down of the meat fibers, fat rendering and is the real goal. The meat will come to a stall at 160-170. The next stage completes the breaking down of the meat and fat rendering. If you wrap with butcher paper at the stall temp as an example, the cook time is reduced and will retain more moisture in the meat. If you go unwrapped for the entire smoke, the potential for drying out comes into play and the smoke time is typically a lot longer.

It really comes down to preference of how YOU like brisket. I’ve achieved some of the best brisket with the most simplistic approach.

Day of smoke
1. Cover with mustard
2. Add a simple rub
3. When meat is at room temp, put on smoker at 225
4. When meat probe reaches 160, pull brisket off and wrap really well with butcher paper.
5. Put back on smoker
5. When meat probe reaches 200, pull brisket off, wrap in beach/bath towel, put in cooler for 1hr.
6. Put the brisket in something that will retain the juices when you unwrap and slice.

That’s just the easiest, least stressful way I’ve achieved success. I’ve done numerous where the process involved making an elaborate rub, let it go for 19-20 hours and it didn’t turn out right. The steps above produce the most repeatable and good tasting brisket in half the time for me.


This. Don't do anything different than this for your first brisket. After you become an expert you'll eventually come back to this and wonder why you started playing around with other ways 🤣


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Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: metalmuncher] #3699780
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I'd put it on the smoker when you leave for work at 4am. Puy smoker on 180-200 degrees. Wrap at 3-4 pm and baste if it seems dry let it go for an hour or two and just eat it.

Dry rub first of course.

Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: metalmuncher] #3699844
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Ok,obviously I can't follow everyone's path to the perfect brisket. Actually I'll be well pleased if it turns out fairly edible due to time challenges and it being my first attempt. I didn't get home until nearly 5:00pm.

It's in the smoker now with a dry rub that has been on it since yesterday. I didn't rub with mustard as some of you suggested and I may wish I did, but I'm not going to cry over spilled milk either way. It is what I guess must be a point since it's somewhat triangular or shield shaped and it's about 3-1/2 inches thick. I plan to check it about every hour or so until I wrap it at bedtime and fill the liquid tray with a mixture of apple juice and water. I may baste it then too. I'll probably turn it up depending on the meat temperature and then try to get some sleep. In the morning I'll get up a little early an see if it's ready to come off and wrap it if it is. I know that it's only allowing about 11 hours to cook but I think I can get my daughter to check on it if I need to leave it on longer.

I'll let Ya'll know how it turns out. And thanks everyone for your comments.

Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: metalmuncher] #3700026
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How many pounds was this brisket? That’s really how you determine time to smoke. If it’s just a flat or point will cook much quicker.

Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: hallb] #3700059
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Originally Posted by hallb
How many pounds was this brisket? That’s really how you determine time to smoke. If it’s just a flat or point will cook much quicker.


I think it's a point but I've thrown the package away and don't remember the weight so I'm going to guess about 5lbs. It's around 3-1/2" thick, maybe 8 or 9 inches wide and about a foot long.

Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: metalmuncher] #3700073
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You aren’t going to need to do that 12+ hours probably more like 5-6. I’d go to 190-205 max temp in the smoker if you plan to leave it overnight. I’d probably let it go a bit and wrap it before you go bed and stick it in the oven at like 195. Take it out in the morning and do the cooler rest.

Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: metalmuncher] #3700144
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Originally Posted by metalmuncher
Originally Posted by hallb
How many pounds was this brisket? That’s really how you determine time to smoke. If it’s just a flat or point will cook much quicker.


I think it's a point but I've thrown the package away and don't remember the weight so I'm going to guess about 5lbs. It's around 3-1/2" thick, maybe 8 or 9 inches wide and about a foot long.


I’d be surprised if it’s just the point. You don’t see those for sale generally. It’s by far my favorite part of the brisket but getting just the point from the grocery store is doubtful. If you did, it’s very fatty and forgiving when you cook it, much like a butt. That’s what true burnt ends are made from.

Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: hallb] #3700149
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Originally Posted by hallb
You aren’t going to need to do that 12+ hours probably more like 5-6. I’d go to 190-205 max temp in the smoker if you plan to leave it overnight. I’d probably let it go a bit and wrap it before you go bed and stick it in the oven at like 195. Take it out in the morning and do the cooler rest.


This is a good idea for the amount of time you got.

Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: BPI] #3700180
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Google Aron Franklin brisket recipe, I think he’s the guru. He gives you step by step, from rub, thru wrap to PATIENCE. Or Myron Mixon. They cook with offset fire with charcoal but I use my Rec Tec pellet grill, temperature is the important issue. Mixon does not wrap, but I recommend wrapping like Aron does.it will take a long time, you’ll learn about the stall( when you think your temp will never come up), but it will. Good luck.

Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: metalmuncher] #3700200
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I smoked my first one 2 weeks ago with an electric pit boss vertical blue smoker I got for Christmas. I rubbed mine with "black" steak seasoning I get from peppertree meats. Put it in the smoker at 225-235 for probably 6-7 hours, internal temp was 145ish, I wrapped it in foil and left it one for another 4 hours or so, pulled it off when the temp was between 185-190. I read somewhere that it will cook another few degrees once pulled and 195 was the ideal temp.

It was melt in your mouth good. I probably ate a good pound while it was still hot. I may have got lucky, I do get my beef from a local farmer and his quality is normally much better than anything I get at a grocery store so that may have been why mine was so good.

Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: metalmuncher] #3700235
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Well I basted and wrapped it last night around 9:45 and left it wrapped overnight and then took it off, unwrapped it and tented it to let it cool at 4:00am. I'll cut it across the grain and dig in when I get home from work this afternoon. If it's good I'll eat until I hurt. If not I guess the dogs will. If they won't eat it, this one will likely be my last.

Re: Need Brisket Help [Re: metalmuncher] #3700248
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Fat side up, 225 degrees until internal temp is 203.

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