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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon... [Re: Irishguy] #3643474
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I’d bet this may have something to do with the pull back, may be running low on money.

https://www.zerohedge.com/commoditi...orts-be-halted-if-buyers-dont-pay-rubles


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Originally Posted by JR1234_
Agreed jawbone and irish.

Jets are a totally different game from a helicopter though. Still need jets to fight jets. Or am I wrong?



"I also believe that to a certain degree aircraft and ships of certain types are also going to become obsolete..."

So yeah... I agree. Fighter Jets will still be needed, but are evolving at a really fast rate right now. I think with this latest round of advanced fighters, we may have seen the last totally new manned fighters, and from now on we will begin developing autonomous and/or semi-autonomous unmanned fighters.

Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon... [Re: cartervj] #3643486
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Originally Posted by cartervj
I’d bet this may have something to do with the pull back, may be running low on money.

https://www.zerohedge.com/commoditi...orts-be-halted-if-buyers-dont-pay-rubles


Didn't Germany basically say, "Naw, we ain't payin' in Rubles."

Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon... [Re: Irishguy] #3643491
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Apparently the Ukrainians are taking the fight to Russia now. I think the day before yesterday they were shelling and/or bombing some Russian towns and now today they have hit a fuel depot in Russia. Things getting even more Interesting...

Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon... [Re: Irishguy] #3643496
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Originally Posted by Irishguy
Originally Posted by JR1234_
Agreed jawbone and irish.

Jets are a totally different game from a helicopter though. Still need jets to fight jets. Or am I wrong?



"I also believe that to a certain degree aircraft and ships of certain types are also going to become obsolete..."

So yeah... I agree. Fighter Jets will still be needed, but are evolving at a really fast rate right now. I think with this latest round of advanced fighters, we may have seen the last totally new manned fighters, and from now on we will begin developing autonomous and/or semi-autonomous unmanned fighters.


Cue the Space Force and satellite offense and defense capabilities.


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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon... [Re: Irishguy] #3643498
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SAM missiles are pretty effective against most aircraft. Ukraine has been asking for and are getting more of them. The real problem Ukraine is having are the Russian cruise missiles which unless you have a Patriot style defense system there isn't much you can do to stop them.


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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon... [Re: Irishguy] #3643542
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Originally Posted by Irishguy
Apparently the Ukrainians are taking the fight to Russia now. I think the day before yesterday they were shelling and/or bombing some Russian towns and now today they have hit a fuel depot in Russia. Things getting even more Interesting...

Fuel depot
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1509768294533935119

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1509754185427959808

Last edited by goodman_hunter; 04/01/22 08:15 AM.

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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon... [Re: Irishguy] #3643611
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All the goofy men that sat around in their Momma's basement playing video games are quickly becoming one of the most important assets in our military as they can pinpoint bomb strategic locations and equipment while still in Mom's basement eating Geno's Pizza Rolls. Drones,baby, drones.


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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon... [Re: Irishguy] #3643703
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Interesting article that discusses just what I was talking about...

https://www.defensenews.com/opinion...n-inform-military-modernization-efforts/

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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon... [Re: Irishguy] #3643792
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Originally Posted by Irishguy
Interesting article that discusses just what I was talking about...

https://www.defensenews.com/opinion...n-inform-military-modernization-efforts/


That's a really good read.


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Agreed 👍

Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon... [Re: Irishguy] #3643838
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Ironic that Russia is complaining about Ukraine shelling their country.

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Originally Posted by DryFire
Ironic that Russia is complaining about Ukraine shelling their country.



That's Russia for you. I have read some of the articles and the Russians actually act indignant. Like, "Ukraine attacked us! WTF?" You can't make this stuff up on Babylon Bee it's too comical.

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Originally Posted by Irishguy
Originally Posted by DryFire
Ironic that Russia is complaining about Ukraine shelling their country.



That's Russia for you. I have read some of the articles and the Russians actually act indignant. Like, "Ukraine attacked us! WTF?" You can't make this stuff up on Babylon Bee it's too comical.

Kinda sounds just like the democrats. Scream about something while they’re b!tching about exactly what they’re screaming.


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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon... [Re: gman] #3644001
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Originally Posted by gman
Originally Posted by Irishguy
Originally Posted by DryFire
Ironic that Russia is complaining about Ukraine shelling their country.



That's Russia for you. I have read some of the articles and the Russians actually act indignant. Like, "Ukraine attacked us! WTF?" You can't make this stuff up on Babylon Bee it's too comical.

Kinda sounds just like the democrats. Scream about something while they’re b!tching about exactly what they’re screaming.



Well it’s working well for the Democrats with the Mainstream media providing full cover


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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon... [Re: Irishguy] #3644006
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Re: Ukraine Fighting Back... War over soon... [Re: dBmV] #3644346
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Originally Posted by dBmV
Plausable, but I will add that the peace deal will allow Putin to keep some areas that he now controls so that he can claim that he was just trying to save the citizens of those regions from atrocities at the hands of the Ukrainians. Possibly as far east as the Dnieper river.


There will never be any peace deal whereby Russia is allowed to keep one inch of Ukrainian land — except for possibly the DPR/LPR statelets as they existed before February 24. Crimea is the wild card.


**********

All the folks who were pro Russia sycophants before the war can ESAD.
Ditto the ones after the war started.



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