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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: Goatkiller]
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01/20/22 01:19 PM
01/20/22 01:19 PM
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2Dogs
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Hopefully they can hire some new employees to replace them before things get worse with the supply chain.
Where they gonna find replacement engineers, ain't just anyone can drive a train.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: AU7MM08]
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01/20/22 03:42 PM
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G/H
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Company I work for use to give us 10 Covid days. As of Jan1 if you have covid sick leave has to be used. If you have to quarantine because of contact tracing then vacation has to be used. Unless your an office worker then you can work from home.
Last edited by G/H; 01/20/22 03:45 PM.
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: Jakethesnake]
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01/20/22 05:58 PM
01/20/22 05:58 PM
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jwalker77
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They need to hire different employees and keep moving. Where do these employees think they are owed something. Pretty sure it takes a few days to learn how to drive a train. Im guessing it would take a minute to to train 17000 new train drivers
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: 2Dogs]
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01/20/22 06:42 PM
01/20/22 06:42 PM
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willdo22
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Hopefully they can hire some new employees to replace them before things get worse with the supply chain.
Where they gonna find replacement engineers, ain't just anyone can drive a train.
A mans got to know his limitations.
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: MarksOutdoors]
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01/20/22 06:42 PM
01/20/22 06:42 PM
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headshot1
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Hopefully they can hire some new employees to replace them before things get worse with the supply chain.
Without a doubt what’s wrong with American corporations today, how about we value the employees we have that have sacrificed a lot for the company! Just spoke with a friend who is retired RR and he said the RR people cannot legally work more than 10hrs a day but they can legally go on strike simply by just saying they are now on strike and negotiations begin during arbitration Not true at all!! I don't know of any industry that is not being overworked due to labor shortages. Not everyone gets compensated as well as the RR guys, though. They'd better be thankful for what they have. They are begging for people every day, you will probably get hired on the spot but I wouldn’t recommend it if you ever want a weekend or holiday off or plan on watching any of your kids ball games and the pay isn’t that good. I’ve been there 19 years and seen some insane changes. The only reason I’m there is I only have 11 left. Imagine being forced to work a holiday and not even getting time and a half or scheduling a paid off day that you earned and them taking it out the day before. BTW I’m not pro-union at all, I think they suck!
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: Jakethesnake]
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01/20/22 07:02 PM
01/20/22 07:02 PM
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My company still pays for all Covid time off. People are abusing it. They need to hire different employees and keep moving. Where do these employees think they are owed something. OBH how are people abusing Covid time off? Sick is sick and companies require a dr excuse if the employee is off for a certain amount of time. Jake... screw you. It’s the employee’s time that they’ve worked for and accrued whether it’s sick time or vacation time. So yes, I and everyone else that has time accrued due to being committed to the company. Oh and by the way jake... I have almost 1000 hrs of sick time that I can’t use unless unless I use 40 hrs of vacation time first.
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: headshot1]
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01/20/22 07:13 PM
01/20/22 07:13 PM
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Posts: 10,416 Scottsboro, Al
jbatey1
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Hopefully they can hire some new employees to replace them before things get worse with the supply chain.
Without a doubt what’s wrong with American corporations today, how about we value the employees we have that have sacrificed a lot for the company! Just spoke with a friend who is retired RR and he said the RR people cannot legally work more than 10hrs a day but they can legally go on strike simply by just saying they are now on strike and negotiations begin during arbitration Not true at all!! I don't know of any industry that is not being overworked due to labor shortages. Not everyone gets compensated as well as the RR guys, though. They'd better be thankful for what they have. They are begging for people every day, you will probably get hired on the spot but I wouldn’t recommend it if you ever want a weekend or holiday off or plan on watching any of your kids ball games and the pay isn’t that good. I’ve been there 19 years and seen some insane changes. The only reason I’m there is I only have 11 left. Imagine being forced to work a holiday and not even getting time and a half or scheduling a paid off day that you earned and them taking it out the day before. BTW I’m not pro-union at all, I think they suck! So you’ve worked for them For 19 years and only have 11 years left or 11 months left? It doesn’t sound like you are crazy about them.. if you have 11 years and miserable, I would leave. People fall into the trap of thinking they can only retire from where they are or NEED to stay just for the retirement. A lot can be done in 11 years that would put you above and beyond what any company offers.
The fool tells me his reasons; the wise man persuades me with my own.
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: AU7MM08]
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01/20/22 07:35 PM
01/20/22 07:35 PM
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joshm28
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You should be a business owner. I don’t get sick time or vacation. Phone and computer are always with me. Even on vacations I have to set aside time to handle quotes, reports, customer calls, etc. But there are perks like slipping off some mornings and afternoons. Sounds like a sales job with a higher income potential Whole lot kore stress though. If I don’t sell there’s several families that don’t eat. Not just mine.
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: Jakethesnake]
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01/20/22 08:28 PM
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hootn
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Heck the railroads cut back so far to the quick that they're working EVERYONE, EVERY DEPARTMENT into the ground. In the mechanical department folks are being forced over to work 16 hours. It takes awhile to train anyone to be able to do the job safely.
if i hadnt taken up hunting i might have became a juvenile delinquent or worst taken up GOLF
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: MorningAir]
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01/20/22 09:09 PM
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What do you people think is happening in the healthcare industry? We have long term sick which at first they would let you use with Covid related issues. The actual policy states that one must use 40 hours of earned time off (vacation time) for any sickness then long sick kicks in but now it all has to come out of ETO. So now the company (hospital) is eating up peoples vacation time. Which by the way they have also been denying some peoples request for time off. Yeah, like I said, even Trump wet the bed on this one. I know of some nurses who lost all but 4 days of their Earned time off due to covid. So now they gotta work until almost August to build up any vacation. Companies are loving this because they won’t have anyone off work for months now. Trump should’ve added something like 10 covid days with or without pay at the corporations discretion that cannot be deducted from ETO , PTO , or Vacation accruals. What the hell is vacation time or pto never seen or had that
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: G/H]
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01/20/22 09:26 PM
01/20/22 09:26 PM
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Company I work for use to give us 10 Covid days. As of Jan1 if you have covid sick leave has to be used. If you have to quarantine because of contact tracing then vacation has to be used. Unless your an office worker then you can work from home. I would just come to work sick.
If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: MorningAir]
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01/20/22 09:45 PM
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TickaTicka
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I don’t know how true this is because I heard it from someone in the transportation industry who doesn’t work for them.
The strike threat on the attendance policy is related to sick days. From what I gather the employees want sick days added to their benefits. I would imagine that some employees lost some pay or vacation due to Covid, and I think this was a complaint before covid across several railroad companies.
I was told that some other railroads are getting buckets of employees complaining about this too.
This is one thing that Trump and Biden dropped the ball on. Companies didn’t add any sick days for covid and quarantine so 1000’s of employees are eating up 5 to 10 days of their earned vacation with covid. The corporations benefit tremendously from this because through 2022 there will be 1000’s of workers with very little vacation time remaining. You have no understanding of current labor laws.
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: AU7MM08]
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01/20/22 09:51 PM
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Clem
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I thought we didn't want The Government -- whether it's Biden or Trump or any of them -- telling businesses what they have to do.
If JB or DJT had imposed a mandatory 10-day Rona Medical with or without pay, some folks would have been chitting their pants about it.
But now with ET or PTO or vacation or whatever gone or almost gone or eaten away and companies saying, "Sorry, that's how it is" some folks are clamoring for more government oversight and decrees.
Either you're for less government or you're not.
Last edited by Clem; 01/20/22 09:53 PM.
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: Clem]
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01/20/22 10:40 PM
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Posts: 3,006 Columbia, SC
CeeHawk37
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I thought we didn't want The Government -- whether it's Biden or Trump or any of them -- telling businesses what they have to do.
If JB or DJT had imposed a mandatory 10-day Rona Medical with or without pay, some folks would have been chitting their pants about it.
But now with ET or PTO or vacation or whatever gone or almost gone or eaten away and companies saying, "Sorry, that's how it is" some folks are clamoring for more government oversight and decrees.
Either you're for less government or you're not.
Agreed. If your company decides to hit your vacation time when you are sick, it’s time to change companies. My vacation time is when I plan to be off. If I get sick, that’s what sick time is for. Any deviation from that format it’s time to find new work. The government needs to stay very far away from the private sector. It will work itself out in time. The free market auto corrects pretty quickly.
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