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Why? #3531104
11/15/21 11:41 PM
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Why do a lot of y'all say you will only sell to Alabama residents? There are a lot of us from Ms that might be close by and want to buy from you.



Re: Why? [Re: FX4] #3531108
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Can’t sell over state lines without FFL involved?

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Re: Why? [Re: FX4] #3531110
11/16/21 12:04 AM
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Re: Why? [Re: FX4] #3531145
11/16/21 06:33 AM
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IF they’re a RESIDENT of AL, but LOCATED (temporarily live) elsewhere, then it wouldn’t apply to FTF transactions in AL….generally applies to military/home of record or others maintaining ‘residency’ in AL…..residency and place of transaction is the thing, not necessarily a mailing address.

OTOH, some rednecks and coonasses just don’t get along. wink

Re: Why? [Re: FX4] #3531150
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The way I read the law is you can sale Long Guns to adjoining states, just not hand guns. Maybe I’m misinformed…


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Re: Why? [Re: FX4] #3531166
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May be in the minority, but if you cant produce an Alabama DL..... BYE...... A.) You ain't from AL B.) You're a felon C.) Maybe both D.) If you dont want me to know who you are, dont expect me to put a gun in your hand.

Re: Why? [Re: FX4] #3531169
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Its the law, buddy. Buy a gun from someone in Mississippi

Re: Why? [Re: FX4] #3531180
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If you want to get the abbreviated information read the thread titled Firearm Purchases and Sales-READ THIS FIRST. It’s at the top of the classified ads. Bama Chem did a good job of summarizing the legal speak and made it easy to keep folks out of trouble.

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Re: Why? [Re: Be_Cam] #3531188
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Originally Posted by Be_Cam
The way I read the law is you can sale Long Guns to adjoining states, just not hand guns. Maybe I’m misinformed…


Need FFL with long guns too.

Re: Why? [Re: FX4] #3531189
11/16/21 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by FX4
Why do a lot of y'all say you will only sell to Alabama residents? There are a lot of us from Ms that might be close by and want to buy from you.



I don’t know. I’ve sold a long gun to a MS resident before with zero issues.


83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: Why? [Re: FX4] #3531192
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Thanks for the replies. I had no idea FTF sells to a nonresident were illegal in Al. I will and do buy from folks in Ms but if I see a rifle I want on here and it's close by, I would rather buy from folks I feel like I know. I guess I learned something today.



Re: Why? [Re: FX4] #3531197
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Originally Posted by FX4
Thanks for the replies. I had no idea FTF sells to a nonresident were illegal in Al.


It's not just illegal in Alabama...it's federal law. Covers all 50 states
I can sell you a firearm, but it must be shipped (or I can carry it myself) to a FFL holder in Mississippi, then you take possession from the FFL.

See this post...
Firearm Purchases and Sales - READ THIS FIRST!

Last edited by hammerhead; 11/16/21 08:36 AM.
Re: Why? [Re: FX4] #3531201
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I sold rifle to someone in MS and it was no trouble using a
FFL. It cost about $50 total between the “2 FFL’s. If it’s something you want don’t let the feds stop you ffom getting it.

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Re: Why? [Re: hammerhead] #3531214
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Originally Posted by hammerhead
Originally Posted by FX4
Thanks for the replies. I had no idea FTF sells to a nonresident were illegal in Al.


It's not just illegal in Alabama...it's federal law. Covers all 50 states
I can sell you a firearm, but it must be shipped (or I can carry it myself) to a FFL holder in Mississippi, then you take possession from the FFL.

See this post...
Firearm Purchases and Sales - READ THIS FIRST!


Most of that is talking about shipping guns or selling hand guns.


83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: Why? [Re: N2TRKYS] #3531225
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Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Originally Posted by hammerhead
Originally Posted by FX4
Thanks for the replies. I had no idea FTF sells to a nonresident were illegal in Al.


It's not just illegal in Alabama...it's federal law. Covers all 50 states
I can sell you a firearm, but it must be shipped (or I can carry it myself) to a FFL holder in Mississippi, then you take possession from the FFL.

See this post...
Firearm Purchases and Sales - READ THIS FIRST!


Most of that is talking about shipping guns or selling hand guns.


Cliff Notes version then...
Quote
Direct from the ATF website: "Please note that if a private person wants to obtain a firearm from a private person who resides in another State, the firearm will have to be shipped to an FFL in the buyer's State. The FFL will be responsible for record keeping."


CORRECTION:
Handguns must be transferred to buyer by FFL in the state the buyer is a resident of
Long guns must still be transferred via FFL but can be in the state the seller resides in

Quote
Federal law for interstate gun sales and other transfers – those occurring between two people who are not Federal Firearm Licensees (FFLs) who live in different states — is pretty straightforward. A person who is not an FFL cannot acquire a handgun from anyone – an FFL or any other person – who lives in another state. A person (the “transferee”) acquiring a long gun must do so through a licensed dealer (FFL). It can be an FFL in any state, the transfer must comply with the laws of the FFL’s and the transferee’s states.

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Re: Why? [Re: hammerhead] #3531229
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Originally Posted by hammerhead
Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Originally Posted by hammerhead
Originally Posted by FX4
Thanks for the replies. I had no idea FTF sells to a nonresident were illegal in Al.


It's not just illegal in Alabama...it's federal law. Covers all 50 states
I can sell you a firearm, but it must be shipped (or I can carry it myself) to a FFL holder in Mississippi, then you take possession from the FFL.

See this post...
Firearm Purchases and Sales - READ THIS FIRST!


Most of that is talking about shipping guns or selling hand guns.


Cliff Notes version then...
Quote
Direct from the ATF website: "Please note that if a private person wants to obtain a firearm from a private person who resides in another State, the firearm will have to be shipped to an FFL in the buyer's State. The FFL will be responsible for record keeping."



Correct, you'll definitely need to transfer through an FFL on a long gun if buyer is not a resident of the same state.


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Re: Why? [Re: hammerhead] #3531236
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Originally Posted by hammerhead
Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Originally Posted by hammerhead
Originally Posted by FX4
Thanks for the replies. I had no idea FTF sells to a nonresident were illegal in Al.


It's not just illegal in Alabama...it's federal law. Covers all 50 states
I can sell you a firearm, but it must be shipped (or I can carry it myself) to a FFL holder in Mississippi, then you take possession from the FFL.

See this post...
Firearm Purchases and Sales - READ THIS FIRST!


Most of that is talking about shipping guns or selling hand guns.


Cliff Notes version then...
Quote
Direct from the ATF website: "Please note that if a private person wants to obtain a firearm from a private person who resides in another State, the firearm will have to be shipped to an FFL in the buyer's State. The FFL will be responsible for record keeping."


CORRECTION:
Handguns must be transferred to buyer by FFL in the state the buyer is a resident of
Long guns must still be transferred via FFL but can be in the state the seller resides in

Quote
Federal law for interstate gun sales and other transfers – those occurring between two people who are not Federal Firearm Licensees (FFLs) who live in different states — is pretty straightforward. A person who is not an FFL cannot acquire a handgun from anyone – an FFL or any other person – who lives in another state. A person (the “transferee”) acquiring a long gun must do so through a licensed dealer (FFL). It can be an FFL in any state, the transfer must comply with the laws of the FFL’s and the transferee’s states.


Fwiw, your cliff note quote is dealing with shipping.


83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: Why? [Re: N2TRKYS] #3531251
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Originally Posted by N2TRKYS


Fwiw, your cliff note quote is dealing with shipping.


It can be shipped to FFL, I can drive it to the FFL myself (done so several times after consulting with the transferring FFL as to how they want it done as both buyer and seller), I can put it on the Pony Express and have them carry it over...it just has to go through FFL

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Re: Why? [Re: N2TRKYS] #3531270
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Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Originally Posted by FX4
Why do a lot of y'all say you will only sell to Alabama residents? There are a lot of us from Ms that might be close by and want to buy from you.



I don’t know. I’ve sold a long gun to a MS resident before with zero issues.


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