Reckon what lives in that whole?

My former company was a tier-one supplier to Honda. They have unions in Japan but it's nothing like it is here. It's basically just a social club after work hours and they don't sit around and tell their employer how to run the business.

Reckon it fills up the whole hole?

Did the unions cause the steel plants to close or government mandate and out sourcing to China?
Also it's kind of stretch to say we (USA) live in a capitalist society. Between globalist politicians , unbridled immigration from 3rd world countries, hln1 visa's (or whatever they're called) government subsidies, government mandates, government welfare system etc.maybe all that's still capitalism, but I don't think it can be called free market capitalism.

Probably just have.......

Depends on how lose the whole is

I don't give up just to appease agitators that use the Lord's name in vain. You haven't added anything of value to this thread, so maybe you should just give it up.

Ha ok whatever 🤷🏿‍♂️

Anybody that thinks American is or has ever been a capitalist society is an idiot. We have some slices of capitalism, but are not a capitalist society or economy. We have always been an oligarchy and are about to become a corporate oligarchy. Hell the freaking intel agencies funded about 55 million dollars of Googles start up $$$$. I mean who seriously thinks all these founders of the top 100 companies were outstanding minds that built it through capitalism. C’mon.

Do you really think he was saying the info you provided was wrong?

Me and a babe were riding the dirt roads back there many moons ago in my Jeep and there were a few of those guys standing around working on a railroad crossing and as I crossed the track one of my tires instantly went flat. Stopped and there was a damn railroad spike stuck in it! Completely ruined the tire. I began looking around and those asshats had a bunch of spikes laying all in the road! They wouldn't even help me change the tire or pick up their spikes. I'm sure someone else got a flat too! Total bs!

I believe I misunderstood now that you mentioned it. Make sense that he was saying the act was wrong. My bad.

Yeah I never understood punishing people that didn’t have anything to do with what’s going on. Some of the broom wood miners were doing that this year from what I heard.

Anything else you've noticed lately you want to ask about? Like exit wounds on ballistic tips, or which is better for whitetail, a .270 or 30-06?

I have no dog in this fight for I worked for a non union shop in the aerospace industry for 32 yrs....For 32 yrs I prayed for a Union and we almost got one too....until the co, got wind of Union meetings at the Hotel up the street from the plant....after it all washed out around 15 folks that were the main ones talking up the Union magically got promoted into supervision, lead line rolls, and even a couple went into mngmt....2 people got walked out for talking about it on co time....after that coorporate flew down and gave us all a little bump in pay and a week off with pay at Christmas and 2 extra PTO days per year... ( thing about is the other facilities were already getting those benefits and some of those shops were Union... ).....Anyway...folks came out of that meeting and Union talks were done.......They forgot all about the Union...Year after year I went thru layoffs and watched good folks and workers lose their jobs in layoffs and several folks with many many more yrs of experience than a lot they kept(Buddybuddy system)...Thats where Unions come in...They doubled our health care premiums twice in 5 yrs and worse coverage....Thats where Unions come in.....The last yr we were in business we sent coorporate a 70 million dollar check....CLEAR PROFIT......then they took the covid bail out money, shut our doors and let around 250 people go and I guarantee you half the folks in there had around 20 to 35 yrs service with a pension and 401k...THATS WHERE A UNION WOULD HAVE BEEN HANDY...They Packed our equipment, tools benches and moved our work out West and hired a bunch of temps to replace us-lol....Got a call a week ago the co, wants all us former employees to fly out to Tempe for 6 months,37 bucks a hr, all the OT you want(time and a half) and pay for all food and Lodging.... Not. one. person. signed. up. Bastards....

Poor guy hammer time , that was funny .

Well you haven’t been watching too closely. UPS just recently sold their freight division. It’s just a matter of time before the unions strangle the package side of ups. FedEx can operate at a fraction of the cost that ups can but they were content with the extra revenue. Once Amazon gets their delivery service operating nationwide then ups will go the way of yellow freight, ups freight and other union trucking companies.

Preach!!!!

In order to be a hard-core Republican conservative... you have to hate Unions. Support for union welders, electricians, coal miners, steel workers is seen as weak, socialist, and Democrat.

These people can't look at an issue for themselves and form an opinion. Because no man is 100% inline with any political party... if you are then you have mapped your beliefs to match the party. This is the great tragedy of America today.

I support the workers right to strike and I support the companies right to fire everyone of them... if they have that right.